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MitcheLL300
Post subject: Dutch Anti Air-commando-Frigate's(LCF)Posted: October 16th, 2010, 8:58 pm
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I decided to create all 4 of the LCF's.
There are 3 versions.
One goalkeeper+ECM (Hr ms Zeven Provincien F802, Hr ms Tromp F803)
One goalkeeper, no ECM (Hr ms De Ruyter F804<- picture from yosemite sam on rear goalkeeper)
Two goalkeeper's, no ECM (Hr ms Evertsen F805)
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HrMs FF ZevenProvincien F802.png
Hr Ms Zeven Provincien F802 (One goalkeeper+ECM)
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HrMs FF ZevenProvincien-Tromp F803.png
Hr Ms Tromp F803 ((One goalkeeper+ECM)
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HrMs FF ZevenProvincien-DeRuyter F804.png
Hr Ms De Ruyter (One goalkeeper, no ECM+picture from yosemite sam on rear goalkeeper)
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Hr Ms Evetsen F805 (Two goalkeeper's, no ECM (Hr ms Evertsen F805))

Tips, foto's, comment?
Please leave them behind!

Mitch 8-)

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-Kortenaer Class (touch up for current standards)
-Sachsen Class Frigates (10% done)
-Johan De Witt L801 (updating to modern standard)


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Colombamike
Post subject: Re: Dutch Anti Air-commando-Frigate's(LCF)Posted: October 16th, 2010, 9:38 pm
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Post subject: Re: Dutch Anti Air-commando-Frigate's(LCF)Posted: October 16th, 2010, 9:59 pm
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MitcheLL300
Post subject: Re: Dutch Anti Air-commando-Frigate's(LCF)Posted: October 16th, 2010, 10:02 pm
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That one is to big and old colam.
Maby if you read at my previous posts...

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Embarked on: HNLMS Karel Doorman A833
To do list:
-Karel Doorman R81 top and front view
-Karel Doorman Class variants (Chile,Belgium,Portugal)
-Jacob van Heemskerck Class (90% done)
-Kortenaer Class (touch up for current standards)
-Sachsen Class Frigates (10% done)
-Johan De Witt L801 (updating to modern standard)


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MihoshiK
Post subject: Re: Dutch Anti Air-commando-Frigate's(LCF)Posted: October 16th, 2010, 11:18 pm
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MitcheLL300 wrote:
That one is to big and old colam.
Maby if you read at my previous posts...
It's all of fifteen pixels too long, and if we use Wiki for size, yours is two pixels too short. For f*cks sake, just shorten the existing drawing, it's perfectly servicable. Besides, using that rendering as a source is not gonna do you much good: it's outdated, you really should use photographs of the actual ship. Like I did...

BTW, the mistake comes from using 1 foot = 0.3 meters, instead of 1 foot = 0.3048 meters, as I used to do...

What a way to get back to the forums, reading this crap...

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Post subject: Re: Dutch Anti Air-commando-Frigate's(LCF)Posted: October 16th, 2010, 11:31 pm
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MihoshiK wrote:
MitcheLL300 wrote:
That one is to big and old colam.
Maby if you read at my previous posts...
It's all of fifteen pixels too long, and if we use Wiki for size, yours is two pixels too short. For f*cks sake, just shorten the existing drawing, it's perfectly servicable. Besides, using that rendering as a source is not gonna do you much good: it's outdated, you really should use photographs of the actual ship. Like I did...

BTW, the mistake comes from using 1 foot = 0.3 meters, instead of 1 foot = 0.3048 meters, as I used to do...

What a way to get back to the forums, reading this crap...
Sanity returns.

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MitcheLL300
Post subject: Re: Dutch Anti Air-commando-Frigate's(LCF)Posted: October 17th, 2010, 3:54 am
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The rendering i use is good for the outer lines.
Wich i only use it for.
As you can see from my last update with the johan de witt.
It is completely different.
And yes i use real photo's, plus i see the ship class every day (isnt that enough?)

And changing the existing drawing would take more time then do a new one.*plus the lenght is exact good, according the ''monteursboek'' of the lcf*
You only hate this because you think your credits wont come back.
Wrong it will.

Plus this one will also bring a top view along with the side view.

So enjoy the new ship and move along.
All happy ending.

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Embarked on: HNLMS Karel Doorman A833
To do list:
-Karel Doorman R81 top and front view
-Karel Doorman Class variants (Chile,Belgium,Portugal)
-Jacob van Heemskerck Class (90% done)
-Kortenaer Class (touch up for current standards)
-Sachsen Class Frigates (10% done)
-Johan De Witt L801 (updating to modern standard)


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Post subject: Re: Dutch Anti Air-commando-Frigate's(LCF)Posted: October 17th, 2010, 11:13 am
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I can see a few basic changes, nothing major though that couldn't be added to the existing drawing. If the original was bad then I'd say maybe but the fact is there is little, if anything, wrong with the original.
Why people insist on drawing umpteen versions of the same thing is beyond me.

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MihoshiK
Post subject: Re: Dutch Anti Air-commando-Frigate's(LCF)Posted: October 17th, 2010, 12:53 pm
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MitcheLL300 wrote:
The rendering i use is good for the outer lines.
Wich i only use it for.
As you can see from my last update with the johan de witt.
It is completely different.
And yes i use real photo's, plus i see the ship class every day (isnt that enough?)
If you're so cool, then why did you put the S1850M radar on it, instead of the SMART-L radar? The British may use the same base electronics, but their antenna is larger than that of the SMART-L.
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And changing the existing drawing would take more time then do a new one.*plus the lenght is exact good, according the ''monteursboek'' of the lcf*
Changing it would take more time...
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That took me an hour and a half. Why isn't your drawing finished yet?
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You only hate this because you think your credits wont come back.
Wrong it will.
Do not presume to know why I don't like this. You do not have a window into my mind. I do not like this because you're basically being useless here.
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Plus this one will also bring a top view along with the side view.

So enjoy the new ship and move along.
All happy ending.
So go right ahead, and use that modified drawing, which cost me a lot less time than you redrawing the entirety of it.

Holy shit, what is it with some people. Drawings get modified all the time here, details added, etc. If a base drawing is perfectly usable, why bother with a new one?

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Post subject: Re: Dutch Anti Air-commando-Frigate's(LCF)Posted: October 17th, 2010, 1:26 pm
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the radar is an new drawing of the APAR, not the S1850M. although I am not sure about the good dimensions either.... do you have some refs? (also for my 3d model of it)
on most other points I agree with you, mitch is apparently redrawing all modern Dutch combat ships instead of modifying. in case of the Rotterdam and JDW I understand that, but in this case......
I also agree that the THALES renders aren't good enough to base this on, even for the outlines there are mistakes in it.

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