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Author:  CraigH [ January 17th, 2017, 12:54 am ]
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Thanks for the complements! I'll pull these and replace them shortly with non-PhotoBucket versions.

@ reytuerto,

I honestly don't know the real differences regarding hull shape or minor differences in rig or sail details. There would be major differences in lumber used to build the things due to available timber. Operating conditions would have been significantly different. These ships were operated on a generally rough, wild, and sparsely populated coastline. Most of the coast North of Santa Cruz (About 1/2 way up California) and up to Alaska is rough, lots of cliffs with small, exposed coves. Periodically there are long beach stretches. Storms come up quickly and ships need to be able to get away from shore quickly. If not, they die.

These lumber schooners were used to quickly get into tiny exposed coves and tie off to rocks or whatever was handy. Up on top of the bluffs or cliffs were logging operations cutting and rough sawing Redwood, Douglas Fir, and a few other mixed species. The lumber was either slid down a slide to the schooner or transferred out via a breaches buoy contrivance. It was up to the schooner to get out to sea and the lumber to market.

Rigging was simple and robust. The schooner rig was as good as you could get to combat the storms out of the Northwest. As I recall, a few hundred were built.

CraigH

Author:  CraigH [ January 17th, 2017, 2:24 pm ]
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Images corrected. Thanks TimothyC!

CraigH

Author:  reytuerto [ January 17th, 2017, 6:56 pm ]
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Hi, CraigH:
Thanks for your answer (and by the way, thanks for your Cannonicus class monitors!, I was trying to find C Hoefer with any sucess :oops: ). I made the question because I was seeking a cheap vessel for coastal navegation in the Eastern Mediterranean, the second half of XIX C. Your schooner looks very fine, much less cumbersome than the 7 masts Thomas Lawson, and I hope that with also a reduced crew (15 to 18), for my AU. May I supose wrightly that the same 3 masts schooner design but with french Lemosin oak, north italian pines, and/or lebanese cedars will work the same? Thanks and cheers.

Author:  Novice [ January 17th, 2017, 9:01 pm ]
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Top quality drawings Craig. Excellent work of art all those sailing ships.

Author:  Garlicdesign [ January 18th, 2017, 6:40 pm ]
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Hi Craig

Thundering applause. Fantastic sailing ships. I could not draw them like this if my life depended on it.

One question about the Sovereign of the Seas: the colour of the above water hull shading fore and aft looks strange (at least on my display), somewhat greenish where the rest of the hull is dark gray. Is that intentional??

Greetings
GD

Author:  nighthunter [ February 20th, 2017, 2:30 am ]
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Hey Craig, was going through the thread and found some resized (by PB) images of ships I don't have a copy of, can you repost them in all their full-sized glory?

Author:  Rodondo [ March 1st, 2017, 7:54 am ]
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Some excellent and beautiful work as always Craig! Great to see the Sea Witch represented

Gentlemans Cutter Zephyr, oldest sea going vessel in Australia apparently, I myself was interested in buying her not so long ago where she required some work for a bargain price, things came to pass it didn't happen but never the less it is a nice neat vessel.

Zephyr as she was first launched
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Zephyr as I saw her
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Author:  Thiel [ March 1st, 2017, 4:31 pm ]
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Fantastic work. Shame about her top mast, but I understand why the owner might prefer not to have it.
What is the black patch on her side? Cooling pipes for the engine?

Author:  eswube [ March 1st, 2017, 8:02 pm ]
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Fantastic indeed!

Author:  adenandy [ March 1st, 2017, 9:40 pm ]
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VERY nice work Rodondo :!:

Jolly WELL DONE sir :D

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