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Author: | erik_t [ March 14th, 2020, 9:15 pm ] | |
Post subject: | Re: Fletcher class destroyers | |
The usual excellence I've come to expect. JOHNSTON was one of the "square bridge" FLETCHER class destroyers, which incorporated a revised/simplified open bridge based on British war experience.
While it's certainly true that British experience went into the bridge revisions, this seems to sort of invert the design process. I am away from a scanner today, but these are some selected quotes from Sumrall's "Sumner-Gearing-Class Destroyers", which is probably the bible of the latter classes.My own selection of quote snippets is borne out of laziness, and I'd be happy to scan a few pages to clarify if you think I'm presenting the wrong interpretation.
General Arrangement of the Bridge Area (pp. 49-50)
As I read it, the bridge you've drawn is the quite traditional American approach, without the semi-plated-in upper level for the OOD that the British seemed to prefer.
The arrangement of the bridge was a controversial matter. The design approved by [SECNAV]... was similar to the square-bridge configuration of the modified Fletchers... it was changed to an arrangement referred to as the British-style bridge. ... In British practice, the conning officer's position was in an open bridge above the pilothouse and helm... ... Both of the British-style bridge configurations were immediately unpopular with most of the ships' captains... ... After considerable effort, the draftsmen... created a new bridge. The arrangement was similar to the square bridge of the modified Fletchers... |
Author: | Colosseum [ March 14th, 2020, 10:16 pm ] | |
Post subject: | Re: Fletcher class destroyers | |
The usual excellence I've come to expect.
That's right - I copied the original text written years ago when reposting the plan view. The text should instead mention that DD-557 is a later "square bridge" Fletcher class DD incorporating the simplified bridge with better overhead visibility, among other improvements.JOHNSTON was one of the "square bridge" FLETCHER class destroyers, which incorporated a revised/simplified open bridge based on British war experience.
While it's certainly true that British experience went into the bridge revisions, this seems to sort of invert the design process. I am away from a scanner today, but these are some selected quotes from Sumrall's "Sumner-Gearing-Class Destroyers", which is probably the bible of the latter classes.My own selection of quote snippets is borne out of laziness, and I'd be happy to scan a few pages to clarify if you think I'm presenting the wrong interpretation.
General Arrangement of the Bridge Area (pp. 49-50)
As I read it, the bridge you've drawn is the quite traditional American approach, without the semi-plated-in upper level for the OOD that the British seemed to prefer.
The arrangement of the bridge was a controversial matter. The design approved by [SECNAV]... was similar to the square-bridge configuration of the modified Fletchers... it was changed to an arrangement referred to as the British-style bridge. ... In British practice, the conning officer's position was in an open bridge above the pilothouse and helm... ... Both of the British-style bridge configurations were immediately unpopular with most of the ships' captains... ... After considerable effort, the draftsmen... created a new bridge. The arrangement was similar to the square bridge of the modified Fletchers... edit: OP updated. Nice catch... so many publications mention redesigned bridges being the "British style", but I think this has been misinterpreted by many authors. The real "British style bridge" is that aboard the early Sumner class DDs Check my drawing of Barton in the archive for what this looks like |
Author: | Hood [ March 15th, 2020, 10:25 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Fletcher class destroyers |
Excellent work. I agree, I find that drawing a top view changes how you do a side view. What you think looks good in a side view often does not work when viewed from above and vice versa. |
Author: | seeker36340 [ March 26th, 2020, 4:38 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Fletcher class destroyers |
Wow....is this the first top-down drawing of a Fletcher posted? It's beautiful |
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