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MitcheLL300
Post subject: HNLMS Karel Doorman Class FrigatesPosted: July 8th, 2018, 8:43 am
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HNLMS Karel Doorman Class:
A class made up out of 8 frigates.
Karel Doorman
Willem van der Zaan
Tjerk Hiddes
Van Amstel
Abraham van der Hulst
Van Nes
Van Galen
Van Speijk

Currently only the Van Amstel and Van Speijk are in service.
2 have been sold to Belgium
2 have been sold to Portugal
2 have been sold to Chile

Build: between 1985-1995
In commision: 1991 till now
Displacement: 2,800 tons standard; 3,320 tons full load
Length: 401ft (122.3m)
Beam: 47ft (14.4m)
Draught: 20ft (6.1m)
Propulsion:
CODOG
2 × Rolls Royce (Spey 1A) 16700 hp (12.45 MW) gas turbines
2 × Stork-Werkspoor 4895 hp (3.650 MW) diesel engines
Speed: 30 knots (54 km/h)
Complement: 154
Sensors and
processing systems:
Thales Smart-S Mk.1 long-range 3D survaillance and tracking radar
Thales LW08 long-range surveillance radar
Thales SeaWatcher 100 active phased array surface detection and tracking radar (NLD and BE ships only)
Thales GateKeeper Electro-optical 360° survaillance system (NLD and BE ships only)
Thales STIR 1.8 Tracking and Illumination Radar system
Thales Scout surface surveillance and tactical navigation radar
Thales PHS-36 Hull-mounted sonar
Thales Anaconda DSBV 61 VLF passive tactical towed array sonar
Ultra Electronics Multi-static Low Frequency Active Passive Sonar (NLD ships only)
Electronic warfare
& decoys:
Thales Vigile APX Radar Electronic Support Measures
Sippican Hycor Mk36 SRBOC Chaff and Decoy Launching System
Armament:
Guns:
1 x Oto Melara 76mm (3 inch) gun
1 x Goalkeeper CIWS
2-4 x Browning M2 12.7mm machine gun
2-6 x FN MAG 7.62mm machine gun
Missiles & Torpedoes:
16 x VLS firing RIM-7 Sea Sparrow Anti-air Missile
8 x Launcher firing Boeing Harpoon Anti-Ship missile
2 x Twin torpedo tubes firing Mk.46 Torpedoes
Aircraft carried:
Chilean Navy: AS 532 Cougar
Portuguese Navy: Westland Super Lynx
Dutch & Belgian Navy: NH-90
Aviation facilities: helicopter hangar and flightdeck for one medium sized helicopter




The following specs will be made for the drawings:
-As build Karel Doorman
-As refitted-IPMS(midlife) Van Speijk
-With added support for Somalia Mission (Extra weapons, freezer, cooling systems on deck)
-With added support for NH-90 Van Amstel

And if anyone can help me with true colours from the Portugeese and Chilian/Belgium navy
-Portugeese Van Galen as bought
-Portugeese Van Galen as refitted-IPMS
-Chilian Tjerk Hiddes as bought
-Belgium Karel Doorman as bought
-Belgium Karel Doorma as refitted-IPMS

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HNLMS Van Speijk F828 in 2012

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To do list:
-Karel Doorman Class variants (Chile,Belgium,Portugal)
-Jacob van Heemskerck Class (90% done)
-Kortenaer Class (touch up for current standards)
-Sachsen Class Frigates (10% done)
-Johan De Witt L801 (updating to modern standard)


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Post subject: Re: Karel Doorman Class FrigatesPosted: July 8th, 2018, 9:38 am
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that M frigate drawing seems to be missing some overhang shadings (I spotted on underneath the aft STIR platform on the mast, haven't searched for others) and the overhang shading that is there seems very light, especially compared with the one under the bridge wings which extend IIRC about the same distance from the superstructure.

The ladder on the forward superstructure is at an angle, I would personally make it 3 pixels wide (from the 4 it is now) to show you are looking at it somewhat from an angle

Other then that, I would only modify the hull shading to something more accurate (I seem to remember I said I would help you with that, pm/discord me when you are ready for that ;) ), and then it looks great!

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MitcheLL300
Post subject: Re: Karel Doorman Class FrigatesPosted: July 8th, 2018, 9:47 am
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acelanceloet wrote: *
that M frigate drawing seems to be missing some overhang shadings (I spotted on underneath the aft STIR platform on the mast, haven't searched for others) and the overhang shading that is there seems very light, especially compared with the one under the bridge wings which extend IIRC about the same distance from the superstructure.

The ladder on the forward superstructure is at an angle, I would personally make it 3 pixels wide (from the 4 it is now) to show you are looking at it somewhat from an angle

Other then that, I would only modify the hull shading to something more accurate (I seem to remember I said I would help you with that, pm/discord me when you are ready for that ;) ), and then it looks great!
Thanks for the advices, will change them and look for more overhangs if i can see.
And on the discord one, will do to!

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Embarked on: HNLMS Karel Doorman A833
To do list:
-Karel Doorman Class variants (Chile,Belgium,Portugal)
-Jacob van Heemskerck Class (90% done)
-Kortenaer Class (touch up for current standards)
-Sachsen Class Frigates (10% done)
-Johan De Witt L801 (updating to modern standard)


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MitcheLL300
Post subject: Re: Karel Doorman Class FrigatesPosted: May 16th, 2019, 6:00 pm
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Revision, hopefully now ready to start on the other nations and original design.

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Embarked on: HNLMS Karel Doorman A833
To do list:
-Karel Doorman Class variants (Chile,Belgium,Portugal)
-Jacob van Heemskerck Class (90% done)
-Kortenaer Class (touch up for current standards)
-Sachsen Class Frigates (10% done)
-Johan De Witt L801 (updating to modern standard)


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Post subject: Re: Karel Doorman Class FrigatesPosted: May 16th, 2019, 10:22 pm
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I was onboard Van Speijk last Wednesday

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Post subject: Re: HNLMS Karel Doorman Class FrigatesPosted: May 18th, 2019, 12:59 pm
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Looks great. Looking forward to see more of them (various ships at various dates... ;) )

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Post subject: Re: HNLMS Karel Doorman Class FrigatesPosted: May 18th, 2019, 4:09 pm
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She needs some missiles ;)


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Post subject: Re: HNLMS Karel Doorman Class FrigatesPosted: May 19th, 2019, 7:14 pm
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erik_t wrote: *
She needs some missiles ;)

Heck youre right! Seems i kinda forgot that :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:

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Embarked on: HNLMS Karel Doorman A833
To do list:
-Karel Doorman Class variants (Chile,Belgium,Portugal)
-Jacob van Heemskerck Class (90% done)
-Kortenaer Class (touch up for current standards)
-Sachsen Class Frigates (10% done)
-Johan De Witt L801 (updating to modern standard)


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