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Post subject: Re: Real Life ChallengePosted: April 25th, 2019, 5:58 pm
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Hi all!

You want a real ship - here's a real ship: HMS Rodney, Slayer of the Bismarck

As commissioned 1928, still without the planned octuple pompoms, carrying eight single pompoms instead:
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In 1930, a HA director was installed on top of the tower mast and the tactical rangefinder was relocated to the aft side of the tower mast:
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By 1936, the octuple pompoms were available, and two were installed abreast the funnel. The old HA rangefinders located there were deleted. The ships also received a catapult on the third turret, a heavy crane on the port side (behind the tower mast) and two quad 12,7mm AAMGs on platforms at the tower mast's sides. The bridge was reconstructed and the forward searchlights were deleted.
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In 1938, a third octuple pompom was installed dead aft. That same year, Rodney became the first RN battleship to be fitted with radar, a twin type 79Y set on a newly erected pole mast forward and on top of the main mast, which was shortened somewhat. Two more 12,7mm quads were mounted on platforms at the mainmast.
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In 1940, the Type 79Y was replaced by the more advanced Type 271 radar (using the same antenna). She also received her first two Oerlikons, side by side atop turret B. In this shape, she went to battle against the Bismarck.
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After that engagement, Rodney went to the USA for refit. By September 1941, she boasted another three octuple pompoms, two aft side by side between mainmast and aft main director, displacing two secondary directors previously mounted there. The third one was mounted on Turret B (sources differ on that one; it might also have been a quad pompom rather than an octuple one). The Oerlikons were relocated to the base of the tower mast. The radar fit was totally revamped; she received a Type 271 (Lantern) on the mainmast starfish, a twin Type 281 on both masttops (replacing the Type 279) and a Type 284 main artillery FC set at the forward main director. Rodney joined Force H after this refit after having belonged to the Atlantic and Home fleets for her entire life, hence the lighter shade of grey.
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During 1942, the Type 271 lantern was replaced by a larger and more effective Type 272 set. The HACS was replaced by a more modern unit with a Type 285 HA fire control radar. The foremast was lengthened to the same height as the mainmast. A total of six Type 282 pompom director radars were installed (four at the mainmast, two at the tower mast); four of these sets replaced the 12,7mm AAMGs, which were landed. Two Type 283 barrage directors were installed aft (on the centerline on both sides of the aft main director). The AAMGs were replaced by a total of 21 Oerlikons by year's end 1942. The whole ship was painted in an elaborate four-colour (at least) camouflage scheme. Sources differ considerably on the exact colours; I used colours from other contemporary RN ships in the bucket which come closest to the colour table floating around on the www.
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Rodney did not receive another major refit during the war. During 1943, catapult, planes and crane were landed and the number of Oerlikons was increased to 55. The 120mm AA guns received shields and a Type 650 anti-missile jammer was installed. According to one source, Rodney still wore her camo paintjob when she provided fire support during operation Overlord in June 1944 (would have been a sin to paint that one over...).
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By fall 1944, Rodney was reduced to harbour service because her hull had deteriorated and she was not given any priority for the long overdue total overhaul. She was unceremoniously scrapped in 1948.


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Post subject: Re: Real Life ChallengePosted: April 25th, 2019, 6:22 pm
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VERY nice work!

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MS State Guard - 08 March 2014 - present

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Post subject: Re: Real Life ChallengePosted: April 25th, 2019, 6:22 pm
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This is another drawing which demonstrates the incredible strides the Shipbucket style has made over the last few years, and walks right up to the line where to add more detail would actually detract from the drawing. An incredible production.

Three cheers for the pale-blue 3x3 porthole :D

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Post subject: Re: Real Life ChallengePosted: April 25th, 2019, 10:16 pm
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Astonishing quality of this set of drawings! Even an ugly duckling like the Rodney looks superb :D ! Thanks, GD!

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Post subject: Re: Real Life ChallengePosted: April 26th, 2019, 8:11 am
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Superb work! They are just perfect. I had often thought about drawing them but never had the time. GD has done a wonderful job.

The only nitpick I would make its that the cockpit of the Walrus should have the same shade as the ship's portholes for consistency.

Hood's Worklist
English Electric Canberra FD
Interwar RN Capital Ships
Never-Were British Aircraft

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Post subject: Re: Real Life ChallengePosted: April 26th, 2019, 8:29 am
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Gorgeous, the "raison d’être" of shipbucket (for me)

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Post subject: Re: Real Life ChallengePosted: April 26th, 2019, 3:48 pm
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Wonderful. Very informative to us ship model builders.
Thank you.

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Post subject: Re: Real Life ChallengePosted: April 27th, 2019, 2:10 pm
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Garlic design Beautiful that's one of the things I love to see on SB a subject taken through its story its changes shown.

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Post subject: Re: Real Life ChallengePosted: April 29th, 2019, 6:35 am
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Hi, welcome to the last gun boat challenge :D, long time to draw real life RTN vessel.

PSMM Mk 5-Class or Sattahip-Class Patrol Boat

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Builder: Italthai Marine Ship Yard
Displacement: 300 tons full load
Dimensions: 50.14 m x 7.3 m x 2.6 m
Propulsion: 2 diesels, 6,840 bhp
Speed: 22 knots
Shaft: 2 shafts
Crew: 56

1x3"/50 caliber single gun
1xBofors 40 mm L/60 single gun
2xOerlikon GAM-B01 20 mm guns
2x12.7 mm guns
1xDecca I-band navigation radar

PGB-4 HTMS Sattahip Commissioned 1983
PGB-5 HTMS Klongyai Commissioned 1984
PGB-6 HTMS Takbai Commissioned 1984
PGB-7 HTMS Katang Commissioned 1985
PGB-8 HTMS Thepa Commissioned 1986
PGB-9 HTMS Thai Muang Commissioned 1986


HTMS Klongyai 2010 (PGB-522)

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-replace 3"/50 caliber single gun by OTO Melara 76/62 mm gun
-replace Bofors 40 mm L/60 single gun by Bofors 40 mm L/60 single gun
-add Thales TACTICOS combat management system
-add Thales Mirador electro-optical gun director
-add 1xFuruno navigation radar

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Post subject: Re: Real Life ChallengePosted: May 8th, 2019, 2:34 pm
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Since we are still within the deadline I've took the chance to fix a few small incongruences and add some descriptive text to all of Kirishima's drawing on page 2.

My Worklist
Sources and documentations are the most welcome.

-Koko Kyouwakoku (Republic of Koko)
-Koko Kaiun Yuso Kaisha - KoKaYu Line (Koko AU spinoff)
-Koko - Civil Aviation

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