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Author:  heuhen [ April 28th, 2014, 12:38 am ]
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wonder how these carries would look like after modification, if they survived.

Author:  emperor_andreas [ April 28th, 2014, 2:03 am ]
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Funny you should ask that...the kai-Taihos will feature in my Pacific War AU. So we might very well see an angle-deck, post-war version.

Author:  Colombamike [ April 28th, 2014, 7:39 am ]
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emperor_andreas wrote:
WOW! EPIC AWESOME!!!
+ 1

Author:  Colombamike [ April 28th, 2014, 8:17 am ]
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BB1987 wrote:
How the Kai-Taiho might have looked once commissioned.
BB1987 wrote:
Planned in 1942 as a follow-on of the IJN Taiho
BB1987, my two cents
Think:
- (approved in the 1937 3rd supplementary program) : Shokaku & Zuikaku laid-down by late 1937/early 1938, launched by mid/late 1939, commissionned by mid/late 1941.
- (approved in the 1939 4th program): Taiho laid-down by mid 1941, launched by early 1943, commissioned by early 1944.

G-15:
- (proposed in the 1942 program): 2 ships (n° 801 & 802) => laid-down during 1943, launched by late 1944, commissioned by mid 1945.
- (proposed in the 1942 supplementary program): 5 ships (n° 5021-5025) = laid-down by late 1943/late 1944, launched by early/late 1945, commissioned by early/late 1946.


For the 1945-1946 AA suit, don't forget that :
- The Zuikaku carry from July 1944 six 28-barreled AA rocket launchers
- The Zuiho carry from 1944 eight 28-barreled AA rocket launchers
- The Junyo carry from July 1944 six 28-barreled AA rocket launchers
- The Shinano carry by november 1944 twelve 28-barreled AA rocket launchers
- The Unryu class carry by late 1944 six 28-barreled AA rocket launchers

=> "As commissioned", your G-15 must carry eight to twelve 28-barreled AA rockets launchers

Don't forget that by 1945 :
- a new 100mm/65 Type 5 (Model 1945) gun was under design, but no guns are known to have been completed.
- a new 40mm/60 Type 5 (Model 1945) gun was under design (a japanese version of the famous 40mm Bofor).

Author:  eswube [ April 28th, 2014, 8:47 am ]
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Amazing work!

Author:  BB1987 [ April 28th, 2014, 11:03 am ]
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Colombamike wrote:
=> "As commissioned", your G-15 must carry eight to twelve 28-barreled AA rockets launchers.
Might make a try fititng them then. I've already got ideas of their possible placements by looking at the sponsons layout. Another drawing might come if I'm satisfied with the results.
Colombamike wrote:
Don't forget that by 1945 :
- a new 100mm/65 Type 5 (Model 1945) gun was under design, but no guns are known to have been completed.
- a new 40mm/60 Type 5 (Model 1945) gun was under design (a japanese version of the famous 40mm Bofor).
I heard about them, but never found any technical drawings of them.

Author:  jabba [ April 28th, 2014, 11:05 am ]
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Great job, and nice colour scheme.

Author:  maomatic [ April 28th, 2014, 9:03 pm ]
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Awesome work, BB1987! I really like those Japanese carriers a lot! :)

@emperor_andreas:
Can`t wait to see your post-war version, mate! :)

Author:  WWII44 [ April 29th, 2014, 6:27 pm ]
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That's a latex covered flight deck right?

Author:  BB1987 [ April 29th, 2014, 8:01 pm ]
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WWII44 wrote:
That's a latex covered flight deck right?
No, just paint over standard wooden planking.

Quoting myself from the real life IJN Taiho thread:
Quote:
Some sources claims that Taiho was the only Japanese Carrier to not feature a wooden flight deck, but that it was instead a sort of latex/rubber material. Yet, it seems thet the flight deck was indeed made of wood (something corroborated by a picture ad a couple of survivors accounts.), but it was repainted in May while she was in Tawi Tawi, with a dark paint, apparently ending up resebling some sort of latex covering, hence the possible confusion about it. (I had found around that the paint used might have been even destined for submarine coating but it was used on Taiho because of wartime shortages.)

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