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Agreed, wetness would be another problem, especially given the low flare forward.

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Having got some consensus of opinion on armaments and superstructure layouts, I have fitted everything together. Please note that the COA for Duke of York on 16A and 16B I downloaded from the site RussianConvoyClub.org.nz, with no hint as to source. It is a jpg so if Kim has a png version somewhere I will be happy to replace it.

10/35 15C - 9x15 20x4.5


11/35 14L - 12x14 20x4.5


12/35 14N - 12x14 20x4.5


03/38 16A - 9x16 12x5.25"


04/38 16B - 9x16 16x5.25

That is a lovely series of designs and I've nothing to add, they all look plausible to me based off the descriptions etc.

There is only one nitpick, could you please outline the Walrus on the catapult in black. I think the original was corrupted in grey, I know I've had to re-colour it for my own works.

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I am sorry you had not pointed out that nitpick some time ago Hood. I would say I have a lot of Commonwealth drawings where I have cut and paste the Walrus launch area from Bombheads KGV to set the width needed. Oh well, fix it once, cut'n'paste the rest as I see them.

I did an essay for a paper at tech quite a few years ago for the best tool on the net, I chose the simple cut, copy, paste, set of functions and I would say they are still my number one tool. I could not live on Shipbucket without them.

Looking again at K's excellent drawings, it struck me that because they are full broadside on, they cannot show an interesting feature of the KGV design. The change in armour system from the internal sloped armour of Nelson to the vertical external armour belt of KGV is often discussed, with comment to the effect that the extra protection offered by the effective increase in thickness of the inclined armour was given up because of the difficulty of repairing an internal belt.
Look at these photos of Anson, which show the "vertical" external belt, certainly vertical amidships, but at its forward and aft ends it follows the slope of the hull and so is inclined with respect to incoming shells. The inclined parts are alongside the turrets and cover the magazines.
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=htt ... =0&ndsp=14
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=htt ... 14&ndsp=20
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=htt ... 34&ndsp=15

Beautiful work...I especially like the last design.

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Awesome drawings! I've never seen the variations before.

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As you say, really excellent drawings. What I find fascinating is to see these variants with detail which is both artistic and realistic, when the only actual records are brief written descriptions in minutes of meetings, and only sometimes some very sketchy outline drawings.

This would be 14B, not 16B.

Here's the list of various designs, going up to Lion 1939.



If you need anything, just ask, I'll see if I can provide.

Sumeragi,

May I point out that all the '14' designations refer to 14 inch versions.

A version with the '16' in it refers to 16" guns.

The list you have above refer to later versions than the ones I have drawn above. If you want to draw those 1937-38 versions, go right ahead.

I know you are trying to help, but we finished the drawings for these 6 months ago. The drawings we did were considered the most likely to be built.