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Post subject: Re: Germany - H Class BattleshipPosted: February 14th, 2016, 12:57 pm
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Splendid addition!


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Post subject: Re: Germany - H Class BattleshipPosted: February 15th, 2016, 8:33 pm
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Great work ;-)

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Post subject: Re: Germany - H Class BattleshipPosted: April 16th, 2016, 5:26 am
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Excellent work, I actually have a novel ("The Final Act") somewhere which has one of these being converted into a monitor. The details are in the opening post of this thread on the Secret Projects forum:

Fictional Warships - Novels

http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/i ... 930.0.html


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maomatic
Post subject: Re: Germany - H Class BattleshipPosted: July 2nd, 2016, 10:00 am
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Hi,

another design study made in late 1940, called the "1940B":

Like the "1940A" it was designed with a mixed propulsion system of Diesel engines and steam turbines.
The armament returned to the classic eigth-barelled layout instead of the "1940As' " peculiar six-gunned design.

Main calibre was to be "bigger than 40,6cm", but since no other info is availabe, I decided to keep the 40,6cm guns in this drawing.

Stats according to german-navy.de:
Displacement: 70.000 tons
Length: 299,8 m
Speed: 32,3 kn

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And as always: The reference material was a bit "basic", so some guesswork had to be done on this "never-were" drawing... ;)


Only the "H41" to go...

Thanks for looking!
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apdsmith
Post subject: Re: Germany - H Class BattleshipPosted: July 2nd, 2016, 10:17 am
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As always, maomatic, that looks fantastic.

Would you be able to collect all of the drawings on the first post? It'd just make it easier to compare the various designs...

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Krakatoa
Post subject: Re: Germany - H Class BattleshipPosted: July 2nd, 2016, 10:22 am
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Maybe some gun in the order of 43.2cm (17") would be applicable. Pretty much a standard layout otherwise. Though I would note the lack of aircraft which would be unusual for a German Capital ship design of the period.

Pity I have stopped the Dual Purpose KM, this would have fitted in nicely with a few 5" and 40mm.

A great drawing Maomatic, well up to the standard we expect of you.


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apdsmith
Post subject: Re: Germany - H Class BattleshipPosted: July 2nd, 2016, 10:24 am
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Hi K,

From what I remember, it's less "no aircraft" and more "none specified on the plan" - maomatic's trying to be as faithful to the (fairly lightweight) plan as he can be, iirc.

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2. Airplanes:
Leaving off the planes was a conscious decision I made, because my reference picture was showing the ship without aircraft handling facilities. Not even a crane can be seen on the aft part like on the H39s.
I do believe however, that the ship would have been equipped with seaplanes.
That was about a different H-class but I'd imagine the same rules apply.

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Post subject: Re: Germany - H Class BattleshipPosted: July 2nd, 2016, 10:53 am
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Hi,

thanks for the comments guys!

@ Adam:
Done, the first post has been updated.

@ Krakatoa:
Adam is right, I left off the planes, because the (crude) plans were not showing any. I don't like to add equipment that can't be found in my references, but I couldn't help to add a hangar door to the angled part of the superstructure next to "D" turret. I consider this to be some sort of compromise... ;)

Concerning the guns: I didn't want to speculate here. My references show turrets and guns that are a little bigger than the 40,6cm turrets I decided to use. The biggest calibre gun* the Kriegsmarine conceived as the 42 cm /48, which itself was just a rebored 40,6cm /52. So I didn't want to "invent" a gun and went with what was actually designed / built.
(*except the experimental 53cm gun that was built)


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apdsmith
Post subject: Re: Germany - H Class BattleshipPosted: July 2nd, 2016, 11:05 am
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Hi Maomatic,

One other thing - I note that the base length on the rangefinders has gone up by 10-20% on the 1940B - any word on why? The turrets seem to be the same as on at least some of the earlier H-class, so I'm assuming a similar sort of range from the guns...

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Post subject: Re: Germany - H Class BattleshipPosted: July 2nd, 2016, 11:37 am
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@Adam:
Good eyes!

Thats mainly because I wanted to keep the RFs matched to the turrets for the "40A", but decided otherwise for the "1940B". The "40A" has been updated with the correct (larger) RFs.
I believe this corellates to the intended use of bigger guns on the "H40" designs.


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