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Post subject: Re: Royal Navy Sea Slug Cruisers & EscortsPosted: February 5th, 2016, 4:38 pm
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It's surprising how distant the 3/70s are from their directors. I wonder how well that would have worked in practice.

Great drawings as usual!


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Post subject: Re: Royal Navy Sea Slug Cruisers & EscortsPosted: February 5th, 2016, 5:42 pm
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Another very interesting addition! :D


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Post subject: Re: Royal Navy Sea Slug Cruisers & EscortsPosted: February 5th, 2016, 6:22 pm
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Any of those 3 designs would have done the RN some good, though in saying that, the twin 6" models would have been better value for money.

Great drawings Hood.


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Post subject: Re: Royal Navy Sea Slug Cruisers & EscortsPosted: February 6th, 2016, 11:16 am
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Thanks for the praises guys.

Another variation on the theme.

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GW51 Talos May 1955

On 21 May 1955 DNC began a sketch design of GW51 with the American RIM-8 Talos system. Based on the original GW51 rather than the GW51A, the design had a displacement of 14,030 tons (deep). Dimensions were 590 x 77 x 19ft 6in. The magazine would hold 46 missiles and there were no gun turrets fitted. Friedman mentions the Talos launcher could be aft or forward, replacing the 6in turrets, but the sketch data seems to show no turrets. The magazine was lengthened to 150ft. Like all the magazines in the GW50-52 series, it had 1.75in armoured top plating. Fire-control was by two AN/SPG-49 and the other radars were British, Types 984, 992 and 974. Note: In 'British Cruisers' Friedman refers to this design as the GW61, this is incorrect.
Drawing Note: This drawing is speculative based on available material

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Post subject: Re: Royal Navy Sea Slug Cruisers & EscortsPosted: February 6th, 2016, 12:55 pm
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No Forward armourment, just Talos :?:

Otherwise, great drawing as always matey :D

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Post subject: Re: Royal Navy Sea Slug Cruisers & EscortsPosted: February 6th, 2016, 4:06 pm
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Very nice ships Hood.

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Post subject: Re: Royal Navy Sea Slug Cruisers & EscortsPosted: February 6th, 2016, 4:31 pm
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adenandy,
The guns had to be sacrificed. Talos weighed twice as much as Sea Slug and two SPG-49 were heavier than the single Type 901. 0.75ft GM was lost, which as Friedman says, pretty much ruled this design out. The Talos was too heavy for this design and really an all-new ship was needed. It was the first stepping stone to further GW series designs with the Stage 1 3/4 missile (Blue Envoy).

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Post subject: Re: Royal Navy Sea Slug Cruisers & EscortsPosted: February 6th, 2016, 10:41 pm
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Ah!

Cheers matey. Very interesting. I guess that explains that then ;)

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Post subject: Re: Royal Navy Sea Slug Cruisers & EscortsPosted: February 6th, 2016, 10:57 pm
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Hood wrote:
adenandy,
The guns had to be sacrificed. Talos weighed twice as much as Sea Slug and two SPG-49 were heavier than the single Type 901. 0.75ft GM was lost, which as Friedman says, pretty much ruled this design out. The Talos was too heavy for this design and really an all-new ship was needed. It was the first stepping stone to further GW series designs with the Stage 1 3/4 missile (Blue Envoy).
Talos and everything associated with it was just too darn big. That missile was designed to shoot down Mach 0.7 Tupelov bombers 300 kilometers downrange at 25,000 meters altitude. When the Bears started lugging around anti-ship missiles as big as Fishbeds, it was time to look at something smaller and more agile, like Terrier.


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Post subject: Re: Royal Navy Sea Slug Cruisers & EscortsPosted: February 7th, 2016, 5:36 pm
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is there any intel on what launcher and reloading system would be used? 46 missiles suggests the Mk 7 installation, which was an on-deck installation for cruiser conversions. also, I might be wrong on this, but would 2 SPW-2 not be required?

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