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Post subject: Re: Germany - Interwar Capital Ship ProposalsPosted: December 13th, 2015, 5:46 pm
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Krakatoa wrote:
Definitely a different design. That tiny funnel for exhausting the 24,000bhp engines gets me.

Well drawn DG_Alpha.
well the it just show an era of "testing out ideas and hope it works"


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Post subject: Re: Germany - Interwar Capital Ship ProposalsPosted: December 13th, 2015, 5:52 pm
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Excellent addition! :)

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Post subject: Re: Germany - Interwar Capital Ship ProposalsPosted: December 14th, 2015, 1:42 pm
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Excellent work illustrating these very little-known designs.
Its nice to see some 1920s large-gun designs. These seem an odd mix of modern (diesel-power) and old styles and remind me very much of early 1900s CDS/Monitor types.

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Post subject: Re: Germany - Interwar Capital Ship ProposalsPosted: December 15th, 2015, 8:20 pm
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Krakatoa wrote:
snip...That tiny funnel for exhausting the 24,000bhp engines gets me.

Well drawn DG_Alpha.
Well it was designed as a Diesel engined vessel.
Ijoin the accolade of the drawing, very well done, DG Alpha!!

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Post subject: Re: Germany - Interwar Capital Ship ProposalsPosted: October 15th, 2017, 2:53 pm
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I have updated the previous designs with a new paint scheme and resored the missing links.


Design IV/30
Another design with 305mm main artillery, this one had the layout that would later be found on the British Nelson-class battleships. Presumable, the German design did this for the same reason, to save weight on armor. Secondary armament was increased with the addition of two 150mm twin turrets.

Technical data:
-length: 132m
-width: 22m
-draft: 6,5m
-speed: 21kn (24000HP, three shafts)
-armor: belt 180mm
-weapons:
-3x2x305mm main artillery
-2x2x150mm secondary artillery
-3x1x105mm flak

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Post subject: Re: Germany - Interwar Capital Ship ProposalsPosted: October 15th, 2017, 2:57 pm
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Nice to see this thread active again.
The IV/30 is certainly a unique design! Certainly packs a punch on a small hull.

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Post subject: Re: Germany - Interwar Capital Ship ProposalsPosted: October 15th, 2017, 3:02 pm
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Design V/30
This design moved from twin to triple turrets for the main artillery, arranged in one turret fore and aft. Secondaries were increased by one additional twin turret, while flak moved to the tried-and-trusted, albeit old 88mm single emplacement. Performance-wise, this design was identical to the previous ones.

Technical data:
-length: 132m
-width: 22m
-draft: 6,5m
-speed: 21kn (24000HP, three shafts)
-armor: belt 180mm
-weapons:
-2x3x305mm main artillery
-3x2x150mm secondary artillery
-3x1x88mm flak

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Post subject: Re: Germany - Interwar Capital Ship ProposalsPosted: October 15th, 2017, 5:09 pm
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Hooray, this thread is back. I'm glad you took the time to restore the lost images.

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Post subject: Re: Germany - Interwar Capital Ship ProposalsPosted: October 16th, 2017, 7:52 am
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Where was the diesel exhaust on the 1925 ships?
I thought it might have been the foremast but that seems too far forward.

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Post subject: Re: Germany - Interwar Capital Ship ProposalsPosted: October 17th, 2017, 5:47 pm
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Edit: fixed a color mistake in the guns of design V/30.

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Where was the diesel exhaust on the 1925 ships?
I thought it might have been the foremast but that seems too far forward.
They don't seem to have one. My guess is that either they were so early in the design phase that it would be added later or they had no clue what kind of funnel those diesel engines would require. I think one of the features of early diesel ships was that they had no funnel (see MS Selandia), so maybe the designer thought they didn't need one.

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