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Philbob
Post subject: Re: New RN FrigatesPosted: October 21st, 2017, 4:55 am
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I think babcock is on to somthing great with their design.

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Post subject: Re: New RN FrigatesPosted: March 16th, 2018, 1:20 pm
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Here's my mockup of the Leander concept from BAE/CL (be gentle, its my first drawing, but any criticism welcome).
Guns:
-Oto Melara 76mm
-Phalanx CIWS
-2 DS30M mounts from the T23
-Various miniguns and GPMGs

Missiles
-18 Sea Ceptor silos (12 fore, 6 amidships) with space for more
-8 canister launched AShW missiles (Harpoon as placeholder)
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Post subject: Re: New RN FrigatesPosted: May 31st, 2018, 8:22 pm
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Anyone? Arrowhead 140 based up on the Iver Huitfeldt class from the Danish navy.

https://www.babcockteam31.com/wp-conten ... ochure.pdf

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Post subject: Re: New RN FrigatesPosted: June 2nd, 2018, 10:18 am
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Post subject: Re: New RN FrigatesPosted: June 2nd, 2018, 12:07 pm
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I would recommend using the updated 76mm gun drawing from here http://67.205.157.234/wiki/index.php/Fi ... k_guns.png

Other then that, nice!

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Post subject: Re: New RN FrigatesPosted: June 2nd, 2018, 12:17 pm
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Yes, its one of the better looking offerings and you've done a nice job drawing it. Good work.

Is there really an exposed ladder like that? Seems odd with the efforts made to shape the superstructure for a lower RCS.

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waterwings
Post subject: Re: New RN FrigatesPosted: June 2nd, 2018, 2:37 pm
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acelanceloet wrote: *
updated 76mm gun drawing
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Hood wrote: *
Is there really an exposed ladder like that? Seems odd with the efforts made to shape the superstructure for a lower RCS.
Just going off the line drawing in the brochure there appears to be one but no good render images have been released to cross-check anything so this is face value from the promotional stuff! Potentially there'd be a Phalanx fit somewhere and maybe even some ASuW missiles ( :roll: ). Personally, I'd like to see a non-BAE offering get the contract for once! I think it looks pretty good, and it's a fairly sizeable offering which seems to be the key to future proofing for additional fits and future systems.

Compare with the original Babcock Arrowhead 120 version (~140m/5700t vs ~120m/4000t):

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Post subject: Re: New RN FrigatesPosted: June 2nd, 2018, 5:52 pm
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Nice drawing, Waterwings. It's funny, for my AU I was doing a take on the Absalon/Iver Huitfeld when the Babcock consortium came out with this. Glad to see great minds think alike.

While it doesn't reflect in the technical drawing in their release document, the video they posted actually reflects the RN variant using the Thales NS100 radar rather than the Artisan, though.

Makes sense of course. Why use BAE's radar if you're going out of your way to make sure BAE doesn't get the T31 program?


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erik_t
Post subject: Re: New RN FrigatesPosted: June 2nd, 2018, 5:54 pm
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This is a very fine drawing.


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waterwings
Post subject: Re: New RN FrigatesPosted: June 2nd, 2018, 7:07 pm
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whitey_nl wrote: *
While it doesn't reflect in the technical drawing in their release document, the video they posted actually reflects the RN variant using the Thales NS100 radar rather than the Artisan, though.

Makes sense of course. Why use BAE's radar if you're going out of your way to make sure BAE doesn't get the T31 program?
It never really occurred to me as I was putting the Artisan on ... shows how little attention I pay to things :lol: You'd think there would want to be standardisation as far as possible in kit terms (for procurement, training, maintenance etc reasons), but the MOD I know is fully capable of buying 6 different things to do one job on 6 different platforms (and conveniently not buying any spares, so when it breaks, it's broken indefinitely :lol: ). Updated above.

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