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Post subject: Re: Fregat Projekt 1957Posted: March 9th, 2011, 5:23 pm
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Thank you for that.
That thing just aft of the 174 is that a hydrophone?

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Post subject: Re: Fregat Projekt 1957Posted: March 9th, 2011, 5:25 pm
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Some say it's Type 162 for bottomed submarines locator and some say its Type 185 (underwater telephone)

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Post subject: Re: Fregat Projekt 1957Posted: March 9th, 2011, 8:32 pm
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Now I just have to find the Type 170 to direct the Squid.
Or can the 174 do that?

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Post subject: Re: Fregat Projekt 1957Posted: March 9th, 2011, 8:49 pm
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A very neat little frigate, something perhaps that would have been quite good in RN service and perhaps can be seen as a gun-armed Type 12 with less ASW capability.
Shame they didn't build them.

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Post subject: Re: Fregat Projekt 1957Posted: March 9th, 2011, 9:12 pm
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To me it's closer to the Type 41.
Same main battery, same ASW weapon and probably sonar as well, and a slightly beefed up light AA battery (4 single L70's against two twin L60's)
Both were diesel powered, and they even would have had the same exhaust arrangement.

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Post subject: Re: Fregat Projekt 1957Posted: March 9th, 2011, 10:00 pm
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Type 174 sonar was a replacement for Type 144 sonar. These two types were 'searchlight' sonars sending a very narrow beam which could determine the range and depth of a submarine target, and so both were in effect used to direct the Squid ASW. Type 177 was a search sonar much like a plannar array radar and used to detect a submarine. Type 162 was a scannig sonar for finding bottomed submarines.

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Post subject: Re: Fregat Projekt 1957Posted: March 10th, 2011, 11:29 am
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rd77 wrote:
Reminds me a lot of contemporary RN frigates. Nice ship!
Specificially reminds me of HMS "Puma" (got to visit her when she came to Monterey, California in the late 60's).


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Post subject: Re: Fregat Projekt 1957Posted: March 10th, 2011, 11:49 am
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eltf177 wrote:
rd77 wrote:
Reminds me a lot of contemporary RN frigates. Nice ship!
Specificially reminds me of HMS "Puma" (got to visit her when she came to Monterey, California in the late 60's).
Like I said, the Type 41 ;)

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Post subject: Re: Fregat Projekt 1957Posted: March 10th, 2011, 6:28 pm
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Very nice :) , and sorry I'm late with the Asdic question ( ;) ) But Novice has replied on that. Re the design, if the aft gun was dropped you could easily fit twin Limbo, to give a very potent asw platform. Or, and this might be a stretch too far, extend the forecastle to the stern and you might just get a single Limbo in as well.


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Post subject: Re: Fregat Projekt 1957Posted: March 10th, 2011, 7:32 pm
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Portsmouth Bill wrote:
Very nice :) , and sorry I'm late with the Asdic question ( ;) ) But Novice has replied on that. Re the design, if the aft gun was dropped you could easily fit twin Limbo, to give a very potent asw platform. Or, and this might be a stretch too far, extend the forecastle to the stern and you might just get a single Limbo in as well.
AS you can see in the other thread, I went for helicopters instead, since what the RDN needed was SAR, and not ASW.

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