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Post subject: An Alternate Austrio-Hungarian NavyPosted: January 13th, 2020, 9:05 pm
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I've been thinking about the Austrio-Hungarian empire in the AU-verse, whether as a standalone AU or as part of my US-AU and the laternate path for the KuK. Having read quite a bit about the lead-up to the Radetzky class, which was finished as a semi-dreadnought battleship, there was a full on dreadnought alternate, with 8x12in guns, one fore, one aft and two wing mounted turrets. This design was rejected as the current floating drydock could not handle the weight of a dreadnought. The wikipedia article is not specific about the excact arrangement of the wing turrets. Tzoli did drawings on the entire Tegetthoff design study, showing designs with a HMS Dreadnought style wing turrets. I want your input on whether I should go with an en-echelon arrangement and have what is basically an Austrio-Hungarian España, the original Radetzky, but swapping the twin 9,4in guns with single 12in guns, similar to what the French wanted to do with the Danton class, or go with the side-by-side design.

I have already done the side-by-side design, as seen here:
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Compared to the original one:
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Post subject: Re: An Alternate Radetzky For AU PurposesPosted: January 15th, 2020, 9:48 pm
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No development so far as to the Radetzky conundrum, but I have finished the alternate Tegetthoff class. This one is different in that it has five twin turrets, to lessen the top heaviness of the class. Most of the preliminary designs for the Tegetthoff has the guns in this arrangement. This one is quite similar to the drawing I made for my American AU, but is also quite different

The Tegetthoff in 1912:
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Another drawing I've finished is the Ersatz Monarch class. I started on the drawing as part of the American AU, but the inital version is one of the longer designs for an all triple turret arrangement, whereas this one goes back to the orignal size, and the most recurring layout of two twin turrets, and two triple turrets. The Viribus Unitis website has SMS Graf Daun and SMS Hunyádi as the most "likely" names.

SMS Graf Daun in 1918:
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I am currently working on the Ersatz Habsburg, the hull and the arnament of 8x38cm guns of the project 3 battleship combined with the superstructure of the project 5 battleship. These battleship designs had the same hull design as the battlecruisers, albeit shorter and wider. Coming in at 200m @ w/l these ships weighted in at 30k tons at standard displacement. The design speed is 24kts. The belt armor is 300mm thick, and the armor belt consists of two 20mm plates stacked on top of each other. The secondary battery comprises 18x5,9 inch guns and 10x90mm guns.

Ersatz Habsburg as designed in 1917:
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Post subject: Re: An Alternate Radetzky For AU PurposesPosted: January 16th, 2020, 8:49 am
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Looking good, I always enjoy a good Austro-Hungarian AU.
These all look quite plausible designs. I think the Radetzky looks good in that layout, makes sense from a magazine location too.

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Post subject: Re: An Alternate Radetzky For AU PurposesPosted: January 16th, 2020, 10:27 am
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I've made some minor improvements to the Ersatz Monarch and finished the Ersatz Habsburg. Next up might be a battlecruiser design to go alongside the Ersatz Habsburg. What I need now is plausible names for the two ships of the Project 3/5 battleships.


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Post subject: Re: An Alternate Austrio-Hungarian NavyPosted: January 16th, 2020, 1:02 pm
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Nice battleships!

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Post subject: Re: An Alternate Austrio-Hungarian NavyPosted: January 17th, 2020, 5:00 am
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Some lovely designs here. I too have been contemplating doing some Austro-Hungarian Navy AU stuff to complete my own Republic of Venice given they would be rivals.

I'd be interested in seeing en echelon arrangement for the wing turrets. Aside from re-arranging boiler rooms however I'm not sure how you'd clear the deck space to make such a thing work. German style wide spacing perhaps?

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Post subject: Re: An Alternate Austrio-Hungarian NavyPosted: January 21st, 2020, 2:47 am
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Here it is, the first class of Austrio-Hungarian battlecruiser, the Ersatz Maria Theresia and her sistership the Ersatz Kaiser Karl. With a length of 230m pp and 29m wide, the Maria was designed for a speed of 30kts. Main arnament is 8x14in guns in four twin turrets. 18x5,9in guns make up the secondary battery, with a tertiary battery of 20x90cm guns, 12 of them in casemates in the hull. The armor belt is 225mm thick, and the deck is built up of two 20mm plates stacked on top of each other.

Ersatz Maria Theresia as designed in 1916:
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