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Post subject: Re: War of the Americas RebootPosted: October 9th, 2020, 3:00 am
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Post subject: Re: War of the Americas RebootPosted: October 17th, 2020, 6:43 am
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G-class (US):
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A progressive refinement of the F-class, the G-class continued the trend of US submarines that could not only serve with the battle fleet but also undertake independent patrols far from the US mainland. Laid down in 1919, they were commissioned during 1921. Five; G-1 to G-5, were built and carried hull numbers SS-20 to SS-24.

The G-class was 188 feet long, with an 18 foot beam and a nominal draft of 14 feet. They displaced 570 tons surfaced, and 696 tons submerged. They were armed with four 18” bow torpedo tubes with stowage for up to nine torpedoes and a Mk.14 3”/50 deck gun. Atlas-Imperial again supplied the diesel engines which produced 1,550 horsepower. Speeds were 16 knots surfaced and 12 knots submerged. Range increased to 5,000 nautical miles while surfaced and 200 nautical miles submerged. Normal crew complement was 32.

Following a brief stint in the peacetime fleet, the G-class continued in service through the War of the Americas – with two being lost; G-4 in 1923, and G-2 in 1925. Followed the war the class was caught up in the postwar draw-down of forces and were retired and scrapped beginning in 1928.

H and J-class (US):
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USS H-1 (SS-25) was a one-off prototype which served as the progenitor of all US submarines built during the War of the Americas but never saw combat herself – serving until 1930 as a training vessel. She was followed by the very similar J-class (the letter I was skipped) which was not only the first to enter service after the outbreak of war but was also the first class with more than five boats ordered. Ten; J-1 to J-10 were built – all entered service by the end of 1923. Hull numbers ran from SS-26 to SS-35.

H-1 was 205 feet long, with a 20 foot beam and a nominal draft of 14 feet. She displaced 690 tons surfaced, and 842 tons submerged. She was the first US submarine to carry 21” torpedoes and mounted four bow tubes and was the last not fitted with a deck gun until the Swordfish class of 1950. Her diesel engines were rated at 1,900 horsepower. Speeds were 15 knots surfaced and 13 knots submerged. Range was 5,000 nautical miles and crew numbered 32.
The J-class was 205 feet long, with a 20 foot beam and a nominal draft of 14 feet. They displaced 700 tons surfaced, and 861 tons submerged. They were armed with four 21” bow torpedo tubes with stowage for up to nine torpedoes and were fitted with a Mk.14 deck gun forward of the conning tower. Horsepower was rated at 1,950 but speed and range remained the same as with H-1. Normal crew complement was 35.

As the first group of the so-called “fleet boats”, the J-class was heavily involved in the first half of the War of the Americas but was normally utilized as commerce raiders. Five; J-1, J-4, J-5, J-8 and J-9 were sunk, and one; J-7, was lost off the Marianas to an accident – most likely an internal explosion – in 1926. After the war the four surviving boats continued to serve until 1932, when they were sold to Peru, where they remained on active duty in limited commission until 1950.

K-class (US):
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The highly successful J-class was followed by another group of ten boats. The K-class, which entered service in 1924, was a progressive refinement on the J-class differing primarily in mounting a heavier 4” deck gun and a stern torpedo tube for the first time. Ten; K-1 to K-10 were built. Hull numbers ran from SS-36 to SS-45.

The K-class was 227 feet long, with a 21 foot beam and a nominal draft of 15 feet. They displaced 890 tons surfaced, and 1,095 tons submerged. They were armed with five 21” torpedo tubes – mounted as four bow tubes and one stern tube – and a 4”/50 Mk.12 deck gun. Two Atlas-Imperial diesels rated at a total of 2,440 horsepower drove these boats to 16 knots surfaced while their electric motors were capable of 14 knots submerged. Range surfaced remained 5,000 nautical miles. Crew complement was 37.

Like their immediate predecessors, the K-class was used largely in commerce raiding missions and accounted for much of the Confederate shipping lost during 1924-25. They paid a heavy price, however, as all but three; K-1, K-2, and K-6, were lost to convoy escorts. When the war ended in 1927 the remaining boats continued to serve in the peacetime navy until 1934, when they were decommissioned and scrapped.

L-class (US):
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The last war-built US submarine class – the L-class entered service between 1925 and 1926. They were based on the K-class design but were larger and heavier with additional spare torpedoes and increased storage for supplies allowing longer duration patrols. A total of forty; L-1 to L-40, were built. Hull numbers ran from SS-46 to SS-85.

The L-class was 242 feet long, with a 21 foot beam and a nominal draft of 15 feet. They displaced 965 tons surfaced, and 1,197 tons submerged. They were armed with six 21” torpedo tubes – four forward, and two aft – with storage for eleven reload torpedoes and a 4” Mk.12 deck gun. Two diesels (Eigner Motor Company in the first 20 boats; Atlas-Imperial in the rest) rated at a total of 2,670 horsepower gave this class a surfaced speed of 16 knots while submerged speed was 14 knots. Range was 5,000 nautical miles while improved batteries allowed a submerged range of 300 nautical miles. Crew complement was 40.

Unlike earlier US submarines, the L-class was usually deployed either with the battle fleet or on independent patrol far into the Western Pacific. Nearly half the class was stationed out of Guam supported by submarine tenders and saw considerable action during the Battle of Subic Bay. Sixteen; L-4, L-7, L-8, L-10, L-12, L-14, L-16, L-17, L-18, L-20, L-22, L-29, L-30, L-34, L-37, and L-38, were lost during the conflict. Following the armistice, the survivors continued to serve in the postwar fleet until 1938, when they were retired and scrapped over the next two years. One, L-23 (SS-68) – a veteran of the Battle of Subic Bay – was preserved as a memorial in Bremerton, Washington.

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Post subject: Re: War of the Americas RebootPosted: October 17th, 2020, 11:49 pm
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Post subject: Re: War of the Americas RebootPosted: October 21st, 2020, 4:39 am
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Beginning in the late Teens, the Confederate Navy – led by its dynamic and progressive Secretary of the Navy Harrison Eaton – planned to take bold steps to addressing the numerical disparity between the CSN and its bitter rival – the US Navy. The 1930 Plan would significantly increase the size of the Confederate Navy and would – if completed – allow it to seriously challenge the USN. Two distinct programs were envisioned; the first would begin during 1920-21 and consisted of four battleships, four battlecruisers, eight “heavy” protected cruisers, and eight light cruisers – all scheduled to be commissioned by the end of 1925. The follow-on program would see additional, more advanced designs, and would be started sometime in the first quarter of 1926. The actual start date as well as the number of ships to be built would be determined by both the strategic as well as the economic situation at that time.
Eaton quickly secured funding for the “A” program from the Confederate Congress – quieting dissent with some more hawkish members by hinting that with luck the program could be completed as early as mid-1927 – and in February of 1920 the keels for two new battlecruisers were laid down, followed within eighteen months by other heavy warships – including two new battleships.
The program proceeded smoothly throughout 1922 and remained on schedule, although the new man in the Executive Mansion; Confederate President Claude Swanson, was about to throw a massive wrench in the works. Swanson, ignorant of the importance of a viable navy in carrying out the massive campaign against the US he’d inherited from his predecessor, Furnifold Simmons, was convinced the CS Army – led by new armored divisions and supported by the CS Air Corps – would carry the day. Needless to say, the Navy was completely blindsided when Eaton learned that Swanson and the CS Congress had agreed to a start date for war with the US no later than the following February.

By this time construction of the four A Program battleships had begun. Designed after extensive studies of battleship combat (rare that it was) during the Great War, the new ships (and the battlecruiser class being built at the same time) were designed around a powerful new gun: the Tredegar Works 15”/45 Mk.I, which would prove to be a reliable and accurate weapon having very similar ballistics and maximum range to the contemporary US 16”/45 Mk.1 – albeit with weaker armor-penetration characteristics due to its lighter shell.
It was originally planned that the new ships – soon named the Lafayette class – would carry ten Mk.I’s in two twin and two triple turrets the latter were plagued by technical issues and were behind schedule. The decision was made to arm the ships with four 2-gun (individually sleeved) turrets and use the triple mounts on the B Program ships. Despite this, the Lafayette class was the most powerful warship design to enter service with the CSN. Unfortunately for the Confederate Navy, the outbreak of war February 20, 1923, forced an immediate halt to construction. Although all four had been laid down between 1921 and 1922, only the first two; Lafayette (B-23) and Mississippi (B-24), were far enough along to continue. Priority was given to the lead ship and she commissioned in 1924. Mississippi was launched by the end of June of 1923 largely to clear the building slip and languished for another month before she and her sister-ships; North Carolina (B-25) and Sierra (B-26) were formally cancelled on August 15th. North Carolina and Sierra were still on the slipways and were only 20-22% complete when cancelled – both being broken up soon after. Mississippi was seriously considered for conversion to an aircraft carrier or fast auxiliary and preliminary plans were drawn up, but the changing Confederate situation put those plans on hold. In the end she was scrapped as well, beginning in late 1925.

CSS Lafayette was 710 feet long overall, had a 105 foot beam, and a nominal draft of 30 feet. She displaced 35,528 tons normal and 36,855 tons full load. She was armed with eight 15”/45 Mk.I’s in four two-gun turrets mounted in super-firing pairs fore and aft. The secondary battery was quite advanced for the period and consisted of twelve Mk.XII 6”/50 guns in six two-gun turrets very similar to the ones mounted as the main armament of Centaur class light cruisers. Eight 3” AA and two submerged 21” torpedo tubes completed the weapons suite. Four sets of geared turbines producing 70,200 shp propelled the ship to a maximum speed of 25 knots while range was 8,500 nautical miles. Armor protection was heavy and well distributed with a 14” belt, 4” armored deck, 17” main turrets with 14” barbettes, 5” secondary turrets, and a 14” conning tower. Crew complement was 1,490.

Although commissioned in 1924, Lafayette saw no action well into 1925 as part of the Confederate disinformation campaign surrounding Operation Citadel. When that operation was launched, however, the ship was designated as fleet flagship and led the Havana Squadron tasked with supporting the seizure of the eastern end of the Panama Canal. On the First of August, 1925, the US squadron led by the USS Wisconsin caught up with the Confederate force and although all three US battleships took Lafayette under fire, the contest quickly turned into a running battle between the two equally-matched flagships. Both took severe damage before Lafayette and the other surviving Confederate ships escaped under cover of darkness. The next morning, the US scout cruiser Lake St. Clair and her escorts located the seriously damaged battleship which was limping at only 15 knots toward friendly ports in Nicaragua. After alerting the rest of the US squadron, the cruiser launched a series of series of torpedo attacks. Struck by at least five, possibly six (some reports say up to seven) torpedoes, Lafayette heeled onto her starboard side before sinking by the bow fifteen minutes later – taking twelve hundred of her crew including Rear Admiral J.L. Armstrong with her. The lost of Lafayette and the majority of the Havana Squadron marked the end of Operation Citadel and was a turning point in the naval war.
As for the B Program ships; they were fated never to be laid down. Few details have survived but what is known would have made these ships formidable opponents. They would have displaced in the 40-42 thousand ton range, carried twelve 15” guns, and been capable of 30 knots. They were cancelled at the same time as Lafayette’s sister-ships, making her the last battleship to fly the Confederate flag.

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Post subject: Re: War of the Americas RebootPosted: October 21st, 2020, 6:11 am
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No more battleships?! That royally sucks...was hoping to see a Confederate version of the Iowas or Montanas. :(

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Post subject: Re: War of the Americas RebootPosted: October 21st, 2020, 8:28 pm
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Maybe a never where section in the AU?Because I'm curious how they might look like.

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