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Wales, Scotland, Cornwall and Northern Ireland have claimed independence in 2011 and now, due to the funding aspects have gone about forming the Commonwealth of Celtic States or CCS. The deal included England getting free Elan Valley water for two years and basing rights in Scotland for 10 years, Wales for five and Cornwall for 15 years. Another thing that the deal includes in a Mutal Defence Pact which, in practise means that they must defend each other if there is an act of war against one. With regards to territory the CCS got West Falkland, St Helena and the Virgin Islands. The CCS must under all circumstances defend these territories and also contribute to any English task force that sails to defend its territories and visa versa.

The Military of the CCS is 100% shared meaning that any member state, given a good reason can call upon its whole strength if need be. With regards to basing naval bases include Milford Haven, Belfast, Faslane and Rosyth. With regards to Air Forces it is independent although it must contribute an Army Air Corps (AAC) and Naval Air Arm (NAA). Its bases include Brawdy, Valley, Aldergrove, a new air base on West Falkland, Lossiemouth, Luchars and Kinloss. The army is specialised in mobility and because of this there are no marines as this is covered for by the army. There is the use of existing army bases although there has been the construction of a defence ministry in Swansea on the sight of the old DVLA.

The navy is equipped with the ex-RN Ark Royal, an air capable Spruance hull, 4 brand new Island Class frigates, 4 modified Type 22 Batch III (now IV) frigates and 6 River Class Corvettes(amongst smaller patrol vessels). These vessels are equipped with a mix of British and American weapons. With regards to aircraft the standard ASW a/c is the AgustaWestland AW-149.

The helicopter element of the forces uses the AW-149 as mentioned above, Lynx Wildcat in AAC configuration, V-22, Chinook and Sea Apache. The fast jet aspect uses Gripen, F-35C (currently land based pending acquisition of Cat and Trap Carrier) and Hawks and the prop elements use Super Tucanos. Transport is provided by 4 Tristars, 6 CN-235, 4 ageing C-130 and a C-17.

The army have large amounts of Alvis Stormer APCs, Scorpion Light Tanks, Saxon APCs and Challenger 2 tanks. They are armed with SA80 family rifles, American Mortars, British 105 Howitzers and AS90. They specialise in being quick to deploy on CCS ships and NATO/CCS C-17s

With regards to political divides there is free trade between England and the rest of the EU. Although each nation is an independent state they use common laws and only have one elected representative at the UN, NATO and other International bodies. With regards to the E.U. They all have at least 2 MEPs but all of these come under one banner. There are strong political ties with England, the US, Australia and Brazil. The government owns a 40% stake in BAe Systems and own CSD Ltd. (Celtic States Defence Limited)

Military doctrine is that the CCS shall align its self with England and the US and that it should be a rapid response military that has a task group ready within 10 days and fully ready for conflict within a month. The national airline/shipping line Celtic Lines must be ready to hand over equipment to the military at little or no notice and it is a requirement for some employees to be called up as reserves.

Will post all designs (all modified from other peoples and parts sheets).
If anyone would like to make a comment, a suggestion or to criticise me please post away.

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Nick

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The Ark Royal Helicopter Carrier

Modified to remove the ski jump, add RAM and new C3 facilities it is the worlds premier helicopter carrier

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Atlantic Class Helicopter Carrier

A Spruance Hull modified in refit to carry 4 heavy helicopters or 2 heavy helicopters and four light helicopters.

It is designed to put a force ashore anywhere in the world at short notice.

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on your flight deck spruance: the radar will drown in the smoke, you have no navigation equipment of satcoms and I miss all defensive equipment. also, 8 lifelarafts are not enough and you have used the old version of the SMART-L or S1850 (this one is so undetailed I can't tell... which one were you planning to use? )

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The Loch Class Destroyer

Modified from the Type 23 batch 3 it was designed to be a true multirole vessel.

It has replaced the Sea Wolf with ASTER and a new Mark 8 Mod 0 gun.

With regards to the above post I have a large one as on oil rigs on the other side on davits.

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used the old goalkeeper, and I see no use of an aster 30 and no other air defence missiles...... I would at least add aster 15 or ESSM as well. also, I am not sure if the current radar set could guide the ASTER..... and I can't quite get what you are meaning in your commentary on my old one (you have an oil rig on board or something??)

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The radar systems are only for a short period of time until new sets can be installed at more lengthy refits and what I meant by the lifeboats is that oil rigs have those large ones that drop down and there is one of them on the other side of the vessel.

Currently I have missed out the City Class destroyer, basically a type 42 with type 45 radar sets, aster and sea wolf (to be replaced by CAMM) The vessel transmits information via data link to other vessels whom then use it for targeting etc.

Just a quick one is ASTER active or does it require the constant use of an illuminater.

Also the old Goalkeeper is still capable of destroying targets it is required to!!!

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Interesting. Always good to see a new AU. If you are on any sort of normal budget, I'd go for American combat systems, as the UK ones are going to be hideously expensive. Aster is *not* the way I'd go under those circumstances. For realistic threat assessment, ESSM and RAM should work just fine, with some decent ASW thrown in, maybe VL Asroc.

Regards the modified Spruance flightdeck creature, surely, something better can be done there. Any existing hulls are likely to be getting worn out, and building new ones isn't worth the expense. That design was never intended to be converted to other uses, and the embarked aircraft aren't, IMHO, going to be worth it. Your best options under these circumstances are to either A) procure another carrier, since the RN is going to get rid of the entire class, B) go for a bargin basement LPH/LHD. This type of vessel is becoming more popular around the world, and the Spanish, French, and Italian yards are offering reasonably affordable designs; or C) procure an ex American LHA if you are really serious about amphibious ops. There should be some Tarawas becoming available, and the Wasps are going to be up for replacement in a few years.

A final word about defence, particuliarly naval procurement. The UK has an annoyingly obnoxious defence procurement process, more designed to support (corrupt) British corporations than actually defend the nation. This results in overpriced systems and being able to afford fewer units--look at the cost of the Type 45s, and ask yourself how many Burkes they could have bought for the same price. I imagine crap like this is why the CCS was formed to begin with, just try not to fall into the same trap.

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I did it with British ones due to the fact that they were the easiest to aquire at the time of the break up. For self defence RAM and ESSM will do but for longer range I prefer ASTER purely for the fact more nations closer to home use it. Largs Bay is in the process of being aquired for 100,000 due to the fact that Wales can stop Birmingham's water so quickly the English will give us almost anything we want.

Also with regards to the Spruance there is the process of acquiring a Cavor based Cat and Trap carrier to operate Sea Gripen, Merlin, E-2 and F-35C

If you are wondering how there is a huge budget it is because England is billed for lots of little things (including Elan Valley water) and me being a Welshmen whom fells quite at home with defence spending fell this is the best thing to do.

Also the City Class was aquired cheap as the radars were there test BAe ones and the Sea Wolf was taken off the Type 22

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***********Also the old Goalkeeper is still capable of destroying targets it is required to!!!***********

Faceplam.... She is not talking about the weapon but we are talking dealing the drawing, that one is just quite outdated.
And she's not old. And for SURE she is better then a USN phanx.