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Ro-Po Max
Post subject: Re: Finnish AU (Part III)Posted: December 24th, 2018, 6:13 pm
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What engines and traction on Patria? This APC is the "fruit" of Western developments and technology. She could not appear in the red totalitarian regime.

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Post subject: Re: Finnish AU (Part III)Posted: December 24th, 2018, 6:42 pm
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Pasi did use Valmet engine, I would put my bets that Golly use Valmet as local powerpck manufacturer.

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Post subject: Re: Finnish AU (Part III)Posted: December 24th, 2018, 7:51 pm
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Rhade wrote: *
Pasi did use Valmet engine, I would put my bets that Golly use Valmet as local powerpck manufacturer.
How about NATO standards?

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Post subject: Re: Finnish AU (Part III)Posted: December 24th, 2018, 11:18 pm
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Ro-Po Max wrote: *
How about NATO standards?
IRL Finland is not NATO member, there is no need for local manufacturer to meet any NATO standard and AMV was design for Finish Armed Forces as Pasi replacement. It meet Finish standards first and being easy to modify and customize it can meet other standards like NATO one. In this AU Patria still develop vehicles for Finland, so not too much change in this terms.

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Post subject: Re: Finnish AU (Part III)Posted: December 25th, 2018, 7:17 am
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in this universum all the APCs use valmet made engines and transmission. Its lateest models with the modular armour suite and equipment fit greatly benefits from SKT's approachemnt with PRC that begun in early 2000'ish. There is no NATO standards anywere in SKA's equipment, despite forms of metal might sometimes take resemblance :D

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Post subject: Re: Finnish AU (Part III)Posted: December 26th, 2018, 10:04 am
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And last, the Air Defence Forces Missiles:

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This completes the FD scale land vehicles part of this AU. (unless i decide to change something). I most likely next venture into another new world of uniform templates in some format (may even be non-pixel) but Eventually next big project will be the Air Forces in FD scale. I hope to begun it this winter, but since the Land Forces took almost a year to complete, it might be another huge commitment to come.

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Post subject: Re: Finnish AU (Part III)Posted: December 26th, 2018, 3:04 pm
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Amazing Golly, there is nothing easy to do missiles at an angle that look good.

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Post subject: Re: Finnish AU (Part III)Posted: December 27th, 2018, 4:33 pm
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FANTASTIC work Golly :!:

Jolly well designed land vehicles and well drawn old chap.

You mentioned commitment and, I MUST congratulate you for seeing this project through, which MUST at times have seemed both daunting and overwhelming.

I can't wait to see your next project and, can only hope that you will see it through with as much enthusiasm as this section of your AU.

Finally, jolly well done old fruit :D

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Post subject: Re: Finnish AU (Part III)Posted: December 30th, 2018, 11:10 am
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Post subject: Re: Finnish AU (Part III)Posted: December 31st, 2018, 12:34 pm
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Ok, as promised, the uniforms. I chose the "franscale" or a similar moult, did my own dude with it and applied SB standard shading and so...

UNIFORMS

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The intial revolution period and formation of SKA saw plentitude of different garments worn over by Red Guards, usually civilian cloths or former Grand Dutchy's army gear fitted with lots of red clothing. The first regulation from 1920 made some uniformity on them by standardising the old Principal military uniform but in lot toned down from its former pomb and variety. Shoulder polettes were gone and replaced with similar rank collar tabs as in RKKA, and the color was chosen as brown, with some variety in tone depending era and factories.

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A big change was made in the 1930's when the new set of suites were introduced, forming the basis for the SKA's look for decades to come. The old Tsarist Russian era tunics and caps were gone, replaced with Distinquised Finnish military caps and western pattern tunics. Breeches were now worn by all personel and Black breeches with branch color stripes seperated the services from normal rifle troops. Conscripts would recieve these colors after the first 2 month of Basic training. Field gear featured Soviet pattern helmets, and by time of the WWII, the Ssch-40 model was introduced and remained in use for almost 50 years. Conscripts would usually be issued with two set of clothes, the better one used as walking out and parade dress, the more worn out ones as Service and field dress. seperate Snowsuits were issued in winter time. The Miliisi (militarised police force) and Border Guards of the Interior Delegate's command also introduced the same pattern uniform, with their own seperate Service colors. Naval uniform followed traditional and international course.

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The M/36 remained in Service trough the war and the post-war period, but allready in the 1950's work begun to modernise the dress. An uniform approach was chosen, which took away the branch colors (as they were simplified in the same progress).Only Miliisi and Border Guard retained their own, and the Miliisi's conscript forces now wore the same uniform in both Allert Units (general security) and Protection units (Installation guards). Breeches were replaced with more traditional trousers, and the Field gear was adapted to the changing needs of the Cold war.


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Simulateniosly with the M/62 Service dress, a seperate Field dress was issued. It featured domestic camoflage pattern and was turnable, the winter snowsuit was now the same suite flipped over. Conscripts would be issued with the camoflage suit, and two sets of the Brown Service dress in same manner as with the older models.
However, due the course of the Cold War era, the M/62 field dress begun to take more role as Service dress, due its relatively simpler cut and easier maintanance and by 1980's, a new set of combat boots and a simple fitted cap were introduced to suplement the dress as Service dress.
The personal combat gear of SKA followed pretty much the same pattern as in Soviet Union and other Warsaw Pact untill introduction of the M/85 combat vest with lot more functionality compared to the seperate pouches and bags in the older model. Also, the practicality of the dual-side use of the M/62 was gradually abandoned and seperate snowsuits once again issued.


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As the M/62 Service dress begun to decline in use, a new modern cut for officers was introduced in 1980's and begun slowly replace it. It Still retains the traditional Brown in SKA use, but in generally the M/85 has been issued as walking out and parade uniform, rather than every day Service dress outside the high level HQs and formal use. This suit is also issued to Navy and while its enlisted personel stil continues to use the traditional sailor suit, the color of the cap is changed to a white.

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The general Uniform M/91 is intended for all services and into all use. It introduces the camoflage pattern suits as the main outward look of the armed forces and acts as combined Service, walking out and field dress. Only the Miliisi retains the Branch colors, the Miliisi version of the dress includes reflector stripes. The Basic cap of the M/80 era is reintroduced and the new officer cap continues the traditions of the old SKA Service cap. Special forces and Border Guards recieved berets (airborne units have used them since the 1960's) in their respective branch colors. The combat gear introduces new composite helmet and a ceramic bodyarmor vest, that can be used simulateniously with the M/85 combat vest (although not in most practical fashion). The walking out dress also includes a winter coat, but generally the military dress-up has switched to layered dressing.

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