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Post subject: Ukrainian SSRPosted: July 31st, 2010, 12:48 pm
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I won't repost everything here as the archive is safe for the time being but all new drawings will appear here.

Here is a potted history of what I've already drawn etc.

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The Parts Sheet

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The uncompleted Italian designed Project 10 battleship Sovyetskaya Ukraina

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The cancelled Project 39 aircraft carrier Ukraina Kommuna

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Project 1 Chervona Ukraina

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Project 2 Ukraina Kommuna

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The unfinished Italian designed Project 9 light cruiser Ukraina Komintern Class

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Project 23 Oktyabrskaya Revolutsiya based on the aborted Project 9

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Project 29 Missle Cruiser Chervona Ukraina Class

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The Novik VI Class destroyers completed after the Civil War

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Project 3 Likhoi Class

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The Italian designed Project 8 Krasnaya Zvezda Class Flotilla Leaders, the bottom picture shows the Ukrainian built Krasnyi Ukraina

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The Italian designed Project 16 Druzhny Class

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Project 17 Sevastopol Proletarii Class torpedo boats, the bottom picture shows the only completed ship

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Post subject: Re: Ukrainian SSRPosted: August 8th, 2010, 2:28 pm
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The first postwar destroyers of the Ukrainian Navy
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Project 19 Destroyer Krasnyi Sevastopol Class
The People’s Ukrainian Defence Commissariat in 1946 was looking at every aspect of the Ukraine’s defence needs and was trying to rebuild the Army, Air Force and Navy while the devastated nation was also being rebuilt and reformed. The need for new destroyers was not pressing but Soviet ambitions in the area were growing and the appearance of a dozen former Italian vessels ceded after the war to the USSR in the Black Sea was disturbing as was the appearance of new Turkish vessels purchased from Britain. The Romanian destroyers Marasti, Maraesesti, Regle Ferdinand and Regina Marina were taken over in 1945 but the first pair were elderly Great War era ships and returned soon after but the remaining two were 1930s Italian built ships and were retained until 1955. They were rearmed with four single 130mm M1937 mounts and four twin 37mm M1947 mounts and renamed Letuchy and Lovky. Together with the Likhoi, Lyogky, Reski, Druzhny and Sovershenny they formed the Destroyer Division.

In 1947 the Naval Scientific and Special Design Committee was ordered to begin designing a new class of destroyers for production during the Sixth Fifth Year Plan. The Central Scientific Institute for Shipbuilding (ChSNII) at Sevastopol formed a design group for Project 19 under P.G. Gergiev. The armament was to be totally new and modern and would consist of two twin 130mm M1952 automatic dual-purpose mounts, one 57mm M1950 quadruple automatic AA mount (later revised to three twin mounts), two quintuple 533mm torpedo tube mounts, one BKB-1 depth-charge rack and two BKB-4 depth-charge launchers and one MBU-2 anti-submarine rocket launcher. Speed would be 34 knots with 72,500hp and range 4,000nm at 18kts. Design took a long time and the final design was not completed until March 1950 and by then the Politburo had authorised twelve boats; four each from the Ukraina Yard, the Kommuna Yard and the Sevastopol Navy Yard. They were named Krasnyi Militsioner Ukrainy, Zhilkooperasiya Ukrainy, Krasnyi Sevastopol, Sevastopol Proletarii, Proletarii Odesshchiny, Krasnyi Kiev, Kharkov Kommuna, Kharkovskii Proletarii, Kharkov Komsomolets, Kiev Komsomolets, Krivoy Rog and Krasnyi Kherson. Laying down of the Project 19 vessels began in March 1951 and launching took place 12-15 months later and completion was during 1953 to 1955. All twelve formed the 1st and 2nd Destroyer Divisions (Odessa and Sevastopol respectively) and remained in service until 1973-79. Modernisation was undertaken 1967-70.
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Project 25 (Project 19 SAM conversion)
Demands for an aerial defence screen for the Navy led to development of the RM-3RI SAM system by SKB-3 at Kharkov during 1964-67. In 1966 four Project 19 boats were selected for conversion, each would loose the after 130mm mount and all 57mm guns and a single RM-4RI Shtorm (SAU-N-2 ‘Gambit’) launcher and associated ‘Park Bowl’ radar. Two twin 30mm light AA mounts were also added. Conversion work was carried out during 1968-71 and they remained in service (two for each destroyer division) until 1979. The four boats converted were Krasnyi Kiev, Krivoy Rog, Proletarii Odesshchiny and Krasnyi Sevastopol.

[Pics are as attachments for temp, hopefully by next weekend I'll have broadband and be able to actually load stuff into photobucket within an average lifetime!]

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Post subject: Re: Ukrainian SSRPosted: August 8th, 2010, 6:48 pm
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Good looking Hood.

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Mitchell van Os
Post subject: Re: Ukrainian SSRPosted: August 8th, 2010, 9:50 pm
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Looks outstanding to me.
Very good job hood!

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Post subject: Re: Ukrainian SSRPosted: August 9th, 2010, 7:01 am
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the Pr.19 looks good, neustrashimyy-like desing, thougth the freeboard looks bit small. Also in the missile version, I migth go redesing the after funnel somehow to prevent its smoke to intervene with the FCR of the missile system.

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ALVAMA
Post subject: Re: Ukrainian SSRPosted: August 9th, 2010, 9:29 am
Excellent design!!!!!


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Post subject: Re: Ukrainian SSRPosted: August 14th, 2010, 1:12 pm
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I figured the same with the after funnel but couldn't get anything I liked or that didn't look silly. I was going for a blend of 1950s USSR and 1950s RN in the style.

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Post subject: Re: Ukrainian SSRPosted: August 14th, 2010, 1:21 pm
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well I adjoin, I have had that feeling everytime I've been messing around with that funnel arragment.

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Post subject: Re: Ukrainian SSRPosted: August 14th, 2010, 3:33 pm
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Nice to see the Ukranians stole the specs for SPS-6 :P


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Post subject: Re: Ukrainian SSRPosted: February 3rd, 2011, 3:46 am
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For some reason, Project 10 reminds me of the mythical "Tretij Internacional" that appeared in "Jane's Fighting Ships."


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