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erik_t
Post subject: Re: Kingdom of NormerrPosted: January 4th, 2018, 3:59 pm
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The P-50s are extraordinarily attractive. I think you are heavily over-equipped on liferafts. It's typical to over-provide by either some percentage of crew (e.g. 125% of the crew size) or number of rafts (e.g. one more raft than necessary for the crew size).

The Shipbucket standard 7Hx7Wx10L pixel containers will fit a 25-man liferaft (actually, even these drawings are slightly over-size). Alternately, (e.g.) eight-man rafts will fit in a 3Hx4Wx7L pixel container.

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Post subject: Re: Kingdom of NormerrPosted: January 4th, 2018, 6:41 pm
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Truly good work Skyder!
erik_t; I admire your acuity, but this is AU after all. ;) However, this good pdf should be taken account of the future for all of us.


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Post subject: Re: Kingdom of NormerrPosted: January 4th, 2018, 6:52 pm
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Quit good drawing.

I agree with Erik-T why draw at all, if you can't do it as realistic as possible. Although I have seen a tendency from many shipyards here in Norway where they install extra life-rafts in alternative position, even when it mean they have 4 times of what they need, just to have life-rafts in several positions.


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Post subject: Re: Kingdom of NormerrPosted: January 4th, 2018, 7:19 pm
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heuhen wrote: *
Quit good drawing.

I agree with Erik-T why draw at all, if you can't do it as realistic as possible. Although I have seen a tendency from many shipyards here in Norway where they install extra life-rafts in alternative position, even when it mean they have 4 times of what they need, just to have life-rafts in several positions.
On warships? Really?


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heuhen
Post subject: Re: Kingdom of NormerrPosted: January 4th, 2018, 7:45 pm
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Why not, if a warship is hit in one area. All life-rafts in that area are damaged... Thus you have life-rafts in other positions. For example Fridtjof Nansen class have life rafts in three different places (Bridge, above hangar, aft of hangar) additional they shall have some simple life-rafts stored onboard.

In Normal operation a Navy ship have the crew they are designed for, but sometimes, Navy invite people on small cruise. When we got the frigates here in Norway she had with here more than 100 passenger in addition to the crew, you never know what situation you can come in


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Post subject: Re: Kingdom of NormerrPosted: January 4th, 2018, 9:05 pm
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@all; thanks

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If I keep all 3 versions I will rework them, your thoughts are making sense.

I can expand the 2016 version some more... The other ones are just quick thoughts which definitely need shaping!
In the cold war Normerr was NATO.

Because of the lack of "large" combat ships I reworked the 2016 sheet a little bit, red points will be changed or go...
I wanted to avoid having unrealistic overpowered naval forces (and creating smaller ships is fun ;-))
I added a 140m and a 100m vessel, probably multi role, maybe the 140mm vessels as command ship? (both are placeholders, thanks to heuhen for the Nansen class)

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Post subject: Re: Kingdom of NormerrPosted: January 4th, 2018, 9:27 pm
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Mighty fine work yet again! :)

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Post subject: Re: Kingdom of NormerrPosted: January 5th, 2018, 12:06 pm
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I'm so much going to copy that!!! ;-)

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Post subject: Re: Kingdom of NormerrPosted: January 5th, 2018, 12:23 pm
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same here, I'm just looking at all this and just think... what can I copy, all of it!


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Post subject: Re: Kingdom of NormerrPosted: January 5th, 2018, 1:51 pm
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Heh thats great way of showing the fleet. I once had idea of producing siluettes in similar way than in the entry page of old Jane's journals, but this comes quite neat as well

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