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odysseus1980
Post subject: Re: Hellenic Kingdom : RevisitedPosted: November 30th, 2016, 8:21 am
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Always any help is welcomed. After read that you wrote on Pre-Salamis thread, do you have any other sources for real Hellas military planning? Prefer send in my e-mail scanned documents or provide links here or by pm.

Forgot to say that my free time is fairly limited.


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Post subject: Re: Hellenic Kingdom : RevisitedPosted: January 8th, 2017, 3:35 pm
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After a lot time, post a WIP of a possible AU Revolt (1821) Brig. In reality, Ottoman Empire limited length of Hellenic built commercial ships to 30m. All however carried armament, due to the need of defense from pirates. The experience of battles with pirates gave significant experience. Also, Hellenic built brigs had very high masts with large sail area, making them very fast. Again, the reason was to be faster than pirate ships. But the high masts made the ship unstable and there are references that when sailing in strong wings these brigs were very close to stability limits. But in that time Hellene shipbuilders build ships without plans, only by trial and error.

In my case, Hellas AU is a Russian protectorate during 1792-1828, so I believe that no limitation rule exist in ship size, meaning that larger ships would be built. This particular brig would be one of largest built.

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Post subject: Re: Hellenic Kingdom : RevisitedPosted: January 8th, 2017, 9:44 pm
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At last!

Hope to updating the thread in tactical basis.


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Post subject: Re: Hellenic Kingdom : RevisitedPosted: January 10th, 2017, 10:15 pm
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Nice. Looking forward to see more. :)

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odysseus1980
Post subject: Re: Hellenic Kingdom : RevisitedPosted: January 17th, 2017, 5:05 pm
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An update of my brig, with underwater hull. Any comments?


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Post subject: Re: Hellenic Kingdom : RevisitedPosted: January 17th, 2017, 8:39 pm
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Very nice brig my friend!

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Post subject: Re: Hellenic Kingdom : RevisitedPosted: January 17th, 2017, 8:51 pm
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Congrats for your nice Brig, Odysseus!


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odysseus1980
Post subject: Re: Hellenic Kingdom : RevisitedPosted: January 25th, 2017, 3:22 pm
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Second Brig, this is a similar type common also in East Med in 1800-1820 and earlier.

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Post subject: Re: Hellenic Kingdom : RevisitedPosted: January 25th, 2017, 4:03 pm
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Hi Odysseus:

Both are nice brigs, but I like more the first one. Looks faster ;) ! Cheers.


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odysseus1980
Post subject: Re: Hellenic Kingdom : RevisitedPosted: February 8th, 2017, 2:48 pm
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Here is the source for second ship:

http://greekshipmodels.com/ships/goleto ... polemikos/

http://greekshipmodels.com/ships/briki-i-vriki-i-paron/ First ship (Brig)

http://greekshipmodels.com/portfolio_ca ... nastaseos/ Rest ships (real) of Hellenic Revolt.

Unfortunately, English page does not work, so anyone who want to read the text needs to translate it by Google Translate. Please ask me freely if you do not understand something.

As seen form the models, these sail ships had very tall masts with 4 sails in front mast, which I need to redesign. Would appreciate any help to drawing.


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