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Post subject: Re: US Light Cruiser PhiladelphiaPosted: June 21st, 2016, 11:48 pm
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Post subject: Re: US Light Cruiser PhiladelphiaPosted: June 22nd, 2016, 4:50 am
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bezobrazov wrote:
Well, we won't give any more advice, especially since you don't bother to heed them...
...wha...I followed so much advice I ended drawing a crappier version of the Northampton.

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Post subject: Re: US Light Cruiser PhiladelphiaPosted: June 22nd, 2016, 10:12 am
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Do you not see the problem there?

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Post subject: Re: US Light Cruiser PhiladelphiaPosted: June 22nd, 2016, 10:27 am
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Now look before this envolves to another pointless drama, some recaps once again, for the thousand times....

This is NOT a ship designing forum but a shipbucket drawing forum. We aim here to produce good and solid SHIPBUCKET drawings of ships from all era and use. Thus the main focus on both the new artist and to those who wishes to teach them is on the actual drawing skill/style/rules of producing good shipbucket drawings. Sadly once again even our more esteemed members and old timers seems to forgot it here once again. With these own designs or AU designs you always end up in the wrong tracks if you start focusing on whether some design is plausible or not or is it a 100% accurate representation of some dedicated style or era ship design.

So you oldtimers, don't make me sad and repeat the same mistakes you have done so many times with these newbies and Tristan, until you have mastered the shipbucket drawing skills, you should keep your threads in the beginners section, that is the point of the whole subforum, to teach a and raise new artists. And when the time comes, go nuts with the drawings, being them real life ships or personal designs. If you do the later, do what you feel and like to draw, don't ask others what you should draw.

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Post subject: Re: US Light Cruiser PhiladelphiaPosted: June 22nd, 2016, 5:13 pm
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Obviously Gollevainen is correct. I would say just focus on figuring out the drawing style and if you want serious advice on designing the ship then ask away. Otherwise learn the style, study some of the other drawings in the archive, and work from there.

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Post subject: Re: US Light Cruiser PhiladelphiaPosted: June 27th, 2016, 1:17 pm
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I'm going back to my old design and restarting this ship.

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The mast will change for sure, I already know it looks a bit weird.

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Post subject: Re: US Light Cruiser PhiladelphiaPosted: June 27th, 2016, 3:27 pm
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This looks good! I'm not sure there would be 1.1" quad AA guns as early as 1924, though. Admittedly I'm not much of an expert on the interwar designs.

I think it should probably be a 4-screw design instead of 2 (you are using the screw setup from the Atlanta which was basically an enlarged DD).

One thing to note that I think would overall improve your work is to standardize a deck height and then make every superstructure level correspond to it.

You have copy/pasted my funnels again. Please don't do this. Those are the more modern funnels from the Brooklyn class that do not fit with this era of ship.

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Post subject: Re: US Light Cruiser PhiladelphiaPosted: June 27th, 2016, 3:56 pm
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1.1 in AA guns would most definetely not be used on anything until the mid 30s. There should even be doubt on whether or not the 5 inch guns should be there, as no US ships had those until the very end of the 20s/early 30s. The bilge keel should be lowered, and the left over bits above it should be removed.

I would straighten the bow ala Omaha or have a clipper bow ala Pensacola.

I have a series of Springstyles designs that lead to the Pensacola class, if you truly want something unique.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/939 ... 584172.jpg
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/939 ... 584175.jpg
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/939 ... 584190.jpg
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/939 ... 584196.jpg
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/939 ... 584206.jpg
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/939 ... 584209.jpg
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/939 ... 584211.jpg


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Post subject: Re: US Light Cruiser PhiladelphiaPosted: June 27th, 2016, 4:02 pm
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Those are interesting. It would be worth someone taking the time to make some well-detailed never-built designs based on those!

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Post subject: Re: US Light Cruiser PhiladelphiaPosted: June 28th, 2016, 11:47 am
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Karle94 wrote:
1.1 in AA guns would most definetely not be used on anything until the mid 30s. There should even be doubt on whether or not the 5 inch guns should be there, as no US ships had those until the very end of the 20s/early 30s. The bilge keel should be lowered, and the left over bits above it should be removed.

I would straighten the bow ala Omaha or have a clipper bow ala Pensacola.

I have a series of Springstyles designs that lead to the Pensacola class, if you truly want something unique.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/939 ... 584172.jpg
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/939 ... 584175.jpg
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/939 ... 584190.jpg
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/939 ... 584196.jpg
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/939 ... 584206.jpg
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/939 ... 584209.jpg
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/939 ... 584211.jpg
If nobody else draws those, I might give it a go! Never-built designs are very interesting

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