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Post subject: Re: Kingdom of Windermere AUPosted: August 22nd, 2017, 8:09 pm
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I have to question the reasoning behind designing and marketing a third western VLS system of equivalent dimensions. Arguably even Sylver was a dubious prospect after Mk 41 already had substantial market penetration, unless you're aiming to market to nations that would not be able to secure a Mk 41 or (or Sylver) export license.
K-VLS is another VLS with similar dimensions, and is intended for launching Korean missiles. Same goes for the new Chinese universal VLS. The W-VLS is similar in that it is intended for launching Windermerian missiles.
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I have to question the reasoning behind designing and marketing a third western VLS system of equivalent dimensions. Arguably even Sylver was a dubious prospect after Mk 41 already had substantial market penetration, unless you're aiming to market to nations that would not be able to secure a Mk 41 or (or Sylver) export license.
K-VLS is another VLS with similar dimensions, and is intended for launching Korean missiles. Same goes for the new Chinese universal VLS. The W-VLS is similar in that it is intended for launching Windermerian missiles.
That is a fair point. The French wanted Sylver so they could Europeanize EU navies instead of being tied to "American" systems and forced to buy American to use the Mk 41 (dimensions of the launcher cell and the ejector buckets are totally different. ESSM will not fit Sylver; though ASTER will fit the Mk 41.). If they could sell Sylver, they would take the EU market away from American vendors. And to be honest, the Mk 41 has some defects. Not as many as Sylver and certainly not as many as the Chinese or Russian systems, but as a VLS it still is a damage control problem. It could be "improved". And the Japanese and the Koreans would be the logical improvers.


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Post subject: Re: Kingdom of Windermere AUPosted: August 26th, 2017, 1:49 pm
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Saint Vincent Class FFG:
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Specifications:
Length: 120 m
Beam: 15.8 m
Draft: 4.5 m
Displacement (max): 3,700 t
Speed: 29 kts
Range: 8,000 nm @ 14 kts
Complement: 130
Propulsion: 1 General Electric LM2500 gas turbine, 4 Wärtsilä 16V26 diesel engines
Sensors:
Windermere Aerospace integrated mast system with:
-Elta EL/M-2248 MF-STAR multifunction AESA radar
-Windermere Aerospace AESA surface search/navigation radar
-Windermere Aerospace EO sensor system
-Windermere Aerospace electronic warfare system
2x Elta EL/M-2221 STGR fire control radars for AK-630M-2 CIWS
Furuno navigation radar
Thales Kingklip hull-mounted sonar
Thales CAPTAS-2 variable depth sonar
Communication systems:
W-MILCOMSAT SATCOM
VHF/UHF antennas
Link 11/16
Armament:
8-cell W-VLS strike-length for a mix of Popeye Turbo, Archangel and W-ASROC missiles
16-cell W-VLS SDLS-length for a mix of Longsword MR-SAM and quadpacked C-Dome (since 2014) missiles
8x Gabriel 5 anti-ship missiles
2x triple 324 mm torpedo tubes with MU90 Impact ASW torpedoes
2x AK-630M-2 30 mm CIWS
2x Oto Melara MARLIN 30 mm remote weapon stations
2-4x M2HB 12.7 mm machine guns
Decoys:
Elbit DESEAVER decoy system
Aircraft:
1x NH90 NFH ASW helicopter
Boats:
2x RHIB

The Saint Vincent Class frigates were developed to replace the Saint Martin Class frigates, which were commissioned in the early 1980's and are nearing the ends of their service lives in the late 2000's. The Saint Vincent Class features a reduced radar cross section compared to earlier frigates of the Royal Windermere Navy, as well as a new integrated mast system. The lead ship of the class, the HMWS Saint Vincent, was commissioned in 2011.


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