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Post subject: Kantai islandsPosted: September 4th, 2017, 7:41 pm
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1934-1944
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As of 2017
Capital: Heguri
National Language: Japanese
Recognized Languages: English
government:Unitary State
Indipendence (from Great Britain): 1800 / 21 May , 1944. (japan)
Area: 401,972 km2
location North pacific
Population: 56.687.102
Density:298,52 km2
GDP (nominal): $ 3.55 trillion

Defence Budget: $ 80.65 billion (7.160.000.000) 2% of GDP
KAF (kantai Air Forces)-Air force: $ 20.05 billion (20.005.235.000 / 30%)
KGF (kantai Ground Forces )-Army: $ 19.10 billion (19.010.501.000 / 20%)
KN (kantai mavy)-Navy: $ 41.05 billion (41.005.801.000 / 50%)



Manpower (active personnel):
Air force: 30.122
Army:125.200
Navy: 99.101
(total )254.423




history: in 1502 a unknown british Maritime explorer discovered a set of large islands in the northwest Pacific. in 1524 the islands became part of British Empire the islands were named new haven. (to be continued at at later date)


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Post subject: Re: Kantai islandsPosted: September 4th, 2017, 8:30 pm
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the kuma class light cruiser was class of 10 light cruiser, these ship were the first modern cruiser built for the kantai navy, the Design of the class was heavily inspired by light cruiser of royal navy and the Imperial German Navy.


Ordered: 1 December 1907
Laid down: 14 May 1908
Launched: 30 April 1910
Commissioned: 3 June 1911
Decommissioned: 30 February 1929
Struck: 12 March 1930
Fate: Sold 19 July 1930
Status: Broken up for scrap

General characteristics

Displacement: 3,3500 long tons (3,600 t) (normal)
Length: 405 ft (123.4 m) (o/a)
Beam: 41 ft 6 in (12.6 m)
Draft:14 ft (4.3 m)
Installed power:17,000 shp (12,000 kW)
12 × toumaci boilers
Propulsion: 2 × Parsons steam turbine sets
Speed: 25 knots (46 km/h; 29 mph)

Armament:

Armament:
5 × single TYPE 98 15cm/40 (152 mm) guns
2 × twin TYPE 6 53cm ( 533mm) torpedo tubes

Armour:
Deck: .5–1 in (13–25 mm)
Conning Tower: 4 in (102 mm)
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in 1917 all kuma class cruiser were modernization, The aft 152mm/40 gun were replaced by two additional 76mm guns
and one 7.7mm automatic machine gun.
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In February 1922, five kuma class cruiser sent to Kousaten Arsenal for conversion into minelayers, The aft 152mm gun was removed, with rails for 40 mines, all to be stored on deck, fitted in their place. all five ships Renamed Fusetsukan 1 through 5.
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all ships of the kuma class when decommissioned 1929, to make room for new cruiser class.
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Ships in class: (laid down-launched-commissioned - fate)
kuma 1908-1910-1911 - Decom 1929
Kinu 1908-1910-1911 - Decom 1929
Isuzu 1909-1911-1912 - Decom 1929
Tama 1909-1911-1912 - Decom 1929
Kiso 1911-1913-1914 - Decom 1929
Ōi 1911-1913-1914 - Decom 1929
Katori 1912-1914-1915 - Decom 1929
Abukuma 1912-1914-1915 - Decom 1929
Yura 1912-1914-1915 - Decom 1929
Natori 1913-1915-1916 - Decom 1929


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Post subject: Re: Kantai islandsPosted: September 4th, 2017, 9:50 pm
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Hi!
Please don't take this post as beign actually aggressive, but I'd suggest to you take a slight bit more of effort in defining you AU nation backgound.
Right now I can clearly see that large parts of the Kantai Islands Country recap are just lifted without modifications from the first page of my own AU.

In particular, those:
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Recognized Languages: English (spoken by 10,52% of the population. Japanese speakers are more or less proficient in English too)
Currency: Mon

Manpower (active personnel):
Air force: 33.447
Army: 112.262
Navy: 72.576
(total 218.285)

Coast Guard: 11.952
Police: 192.480

Ethnic groups: (1940)
97,6% Japanese
1,78% Pacific Islander
0,58% Asian
0,04% White/Other

Ethnic groups: (2014)
89,2% Japanese
6,09% White
1,41% Pacific Islander
1,2% Asian
0,6% Black
1,5% Other
The capital of Kantai Nation also appears to be named after one of the cities of Koko.

One last quibble. your Kuma class cruisers do credit Garicdesign (obviously, as the hull is crearly frome one oh his works), but I do also recognize the mast, funnels and bridges coming from some of my early AU ships. There is no problem with that, but just add my name to the credit line as well.

Again, don't take my words as being harsh but I got a bit puzzled in finding here text I've written elsewhere. Try beign a bit more imaginative, your AU will definitely gain for this, and you will find yourelf having fun while doing it believe me. :)

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-Koko Kyouwakoku (Republic of Koko)
-Koko Kaiun Yuso Kaisha - KoKaYu Line (Koko AU spinoff)
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Post subject: Re: Kantai islandsPosted: September 4th, 2017, 10:02 pm
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i'm so sorry its just that i have bad spelling problems and i'm still new
at shipbucket i will make sure to do to do better.


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Post subject: Re: Kantai islandsPosted: September 5th, 2017, 4:49 am
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Since Kantai means fleet, this is the Fleet Islands?


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Post subject: Re: Kantai islandsPosted: September 5th, 2017, 10:32 am
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he Murakumo-class destroyers was class of 15 destroyers, these destroyers were the first large destroyers designed for open ocean service to be built in kantai islands.The Murakumo-class destroyers were designed after the Russo-Japanese War, as the kantai Navy realized that the vessels in its current fleet of destroyers were too small and poorly designed for extended “blue water” operation.

Ordered: 12 January 1908
Laid down: 14 May 1909
Launched: 7 June l 1911
Commissioned: 7 September 1912
Decommissioned: 25 February 1932
Struck: 30 February 1932
Fate: Sold 19 July 1933
Status: Broken up for scrap

General characteristics

Displacement: 1,100 long tons (1,100 t) standard 1,320 long tons (1,340 t) full load
Length: 98 m (321 ft 6 in)
Beam: 8.6 m (28 ft)
Draft: 2.7 m (8.9 ft)
Installed power: 3-shaft Parsons steam turbine, 8 boilers, 20,500 ihp (15,300 kW)

Armament:
3 × single TYPE 10 12cm
3 × twin TYPE 6 53cm ( 533mm) torpedo tubes
1 x single TYPE 8 7cm
Armour:
Deck: .(13–25 mm)
Conning Tower: (50 mm)
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Usugumo and Murakumo as part of the kantai islands detachment in the Battle of Tsingtao, and in the operation to seize German colonial possessions in the South Pacific.
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Yūgiri as she appeared Throughout 1915–1916, on escort duty in the West Pacific and Indian Oceans.
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in 1915 all Murakumo class destroyers were modify the bridge area was enclosed, redesign improve the bridge crew endurance in bad weather.
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In February 1919, all Murakumo class destroyers sent to Heguri Arsenal for modernization, The aft torpedo tube was replaced by one additional 120mm gun and two additional 76mm guns.
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in 1923 two Murakumo class destroyers were Converted in to Auxiliary Minesweeper, all torpedo tubes were remove and minesweeping gears was added and they were the only auxiliary minelayers to be fitted with two depth charge racks- one on each side amidship,
the ships were Renamed to Sokaitokumutei 5 and 6.
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the decommissioning of the Murakumo class destroyers begun in 1932.
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in 1934 the japanese army and navy launched a invasion of the kantai islands, the invasion was surprise attack, the navy army and air force of the came under control of the japanese armed forces, strengthening the japanese military in the pacific.
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Ships in class: (laid down-launched-commissioned - fate)

Murakumo 1909-1911-1912 - Decommissioned 1932
Shinonome 1909-1911-1912 - Decommissioned 1932
Yūgiri 1909-1911-1912 - Decommissioned 1932
Shiranui 1909-1911-1912 - Decommissioned 1932
Kagerō 1909-1911-1912 - Decommissioned 1932
Usugumo 1910-1912-1913 - Decommissioned 1932
Shirakumo 1910-1912-1913 - Decommissioned 1932
Asashio 1910-1912-1913 - Decommissioned 1932
Akatsuki 1910-1912-1913 - Sunk 1916
Kasumi 1911-1913-1914 - Sunk 1916
Fubuki 1911-1913-1914 - Decommissioned 1934
Harusame 1911-1913-1914 - Converted 1923
Niji 1911-1913-1914 - Converted 1923
Akebono 1912-1914-1915 - Decommissioned 1935
Oboro 1912-1914-1915 - Decommissioned 1935


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Post subject: Re: Kantai islandsPosted: September 5th, 2017, 3:58 pm
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the second Dreadnought type battleship, to be Commissioned in to the kantai navy, the Asagiri was unremarkable for her time hoyever in 1925 kantai navy saw the need for a capable Aircraft carrier so in 1927 the Asagiri was Decommissioned so she could be Converted in to navy first aircraft carrier.

Ordered: 1 April 1910
Laid down: 14 May 1911
Launched: 30 April 1913
Commissioned: 3 June 1914
Decommissioned: 19 February 1927
Struck: 28 February 1927
Fate: Converted in to aircraft carrier 1929
Status: recommissioned on 31 november 1932

General characteristics

Displacement: 22.200 long tons (22,100 t) (normal)
Length: 616 ft (188.6m) (o/a)
Beam: 88 ft 5 in (27.2 m)
Draft:29.1 ft (8.9 m)
Installed power:40,000 shp (30,000 kW)toumaci
24 × toumaci water-tube boilers
Propulsion: 4 × shafts 2 × Brown-Curtis steam turbine sets
Speed: 23 knots (43 km/h; 26 mph)

Armament:
3 × twin TYPE 13 35cm/45 (356 mm) guns
16 × single TYPE 11 15cm/50 ( 152mm) guns
8 x single TYPE 13 12cm/40 ( 120mm) guns

Armour:
Waterline belt: 305–102 mm (12–4 in)
Deck: 51 mm (2 in)
Gun turrets: 279 mm (11.0 in)
Barbettes: 305 mm (12 in)
Conning tower: 351 mm (13.8 in)
Bulkheads: 305–102 mm (12–4 in)
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in May 1916 the Asagiri was deployed in the Indian Oceans to intercept german convoys, in 1918 after the end of war she was recall back to the kantai islands to undergo modernization.
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in 1925 the navy saw the need for a capable Aircraft carrier so in 1927 the Asagiri was Decommissioned.
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Post subject: Re: Kantai islandsPosted: September 6th, 2017, 8:15 pm
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The Sendai class were slightly larger and improved versions of the preceding Kuma class with a more powerful armament.



Ordered: 29 December 1908
Laid down: 14 May 1909
Launched: 30 April 1912
Commissioned: 3 June 1913
Decommissioned: 5 February 1932
Struck: 25 February 1932
Fate: Sold 28 July 1933
Status: Broken up for scrap

General characteristics

Displacement: 5,275 long tons (5,360 t) (normal)
Length: 453 ft (138.1 m) (o/a)
Beam: 47 ft 6 in (14.5 m)
Draft: 15 ft 6 in (4.72 m) (mean)
Installed power: 22,000 shp (16,000 kW)
12 × toumaci boilers
Propulsion: 2 × Parsons steam turbine sets
Speed: 25 kn (46 km/h; 29 mph)


Armament:
9 × single TYPE 98 15cm/40 (152 mm) guns


Armour:
Deck: .5–1 in (13–25 mm)
Conning Tower: 5 in (152 mm)
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Ayase as the leader of Destroyer squadron 1, part of the kantai islands detachment in the Battle of Tsingtao, and in the operation to seize German colonial possessions in the South Pacific
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From December 1914 to January 1915, Sendai,Otonase and the destroyers Shimotsuki and Fuyutsuki were assigned to patrols off the coast of northern Queensland, Australia and on 26 March 1917, the British Admiralty further requested the deployment of Sendai and
Minase to Australia and New Zealand to protect shipping against German commerce raiding operations.
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After the end of the war, Otonase was assigned to patrol off the east coast of Russia to provide protection and support for supply convoys to kantai island ground forces in Siberia during the Siberian Intervention against the Bolshevik Red Army. During the inter-war period, future Fleet Admiral Eito matsumoto was captain of Otonase from 1919-1920.
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in 1922, after the ratification of the Washington Naval Treaty, the three Light cruiser units were removed from service and decommissioned. the ships were later converted into minesweepers.
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Ships in class: (laid down-launched-commissioned - fate)

Sendai 1908-1912-1913 - Decommissioned 1922 (converted to Minesweeper)
Ayase 1908-1912-1913 - Decommissioned 1922 (converted to Minesweeper)
Otonase 1909-1913-1914 - Decommissioned 1922 (converted to Minesweeper)


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Post subject: Re: Kantai islandsPosted: September 9th, 2017, 9:56 am
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A former class of outdated light cruiser, the three S-1 Minesweepers were converted to their new role in 1923.


recommissioned: 25 September 1924
Decommissioned: 12 February 1948
Struck: 28 February 1948
Fate: Sold 19 December 1948
Status: Broken up for scrap

General characteristics

Displacement: 5,275 long tons (5,360 t) (normal)
Length: 453 ft (138.1 m) (o/a)
Beam: 47 ft 6 in (14.5 m)
Draft: 15 ft 6 in (4.72 m) (mean)
Installed power: 22,000 shp (16,000 kW)
12 × toumaci boilers
Propulsion: 2 × Parsons steam turbine sets
Speed: 25 kn (46 km/h; 29 mph)


Armament:
3 × single Type 17 15cm/50 (152 mm) guns
1 x single Type 16 7cm/40 (76mm) gun

After reconstruction:
3 × twin Type 29 12cm/50 (127mm) guns
1 x single Type 16 7cm/40 (76mm) gun
2 x single Type 17 7cm/94 Machine guns

Armour:
Deck: .5–1 in (13–25 mm)
Conning Tower: 5 in (152 mm)
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On 15 October 1926, during large-scale fleet maneuvers, S-2 rammed the cruiser kuma between her No.3 and No.4 funnels. The collision only lightly damaged kuma, but S-2 lost her bow and had to be towed by the battleship Asagiri to Kokunao navy yard, and from there she was returned to Heguri Naval Arsenal by tugboats. Repairs with a temporary bow were completed by 22 November 1926, but a permanent bow with a slightly different design was refitted at Heguri Naval Arsenal from 1 April to 30 December 1929.
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in 1934 the japanese army and navy launched a invasion of the kantai islands, S-3 and S-1 was sunk by aircraft for the carrier akagi.
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On 6 June 1941 S-2 was assigned to the Third Fleet, on MineSweepDiv 21, along with the minesweepers W-7, W-8, W-9, W-11, and W-12. On 29 November of the same year, S-2 departed from Sasebo, and arrived at the Mako Guard District in Formosa, a major base for the Imperial Japanese Navy.
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On 9 January 1942, MineSweepDiv 21's remaining ships left Magunaga Bay, with the light cruiser Nagara, the submarine chasers CH-1, CH-2, and CH-3, and patrol boats P-1, P-2, and P-34. On 11 January, the convoy reached the city of Kema, Indonesia, and landed on Madano an hour later
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in 1943 S-2 was Heavily damaged by USS Tilefish on 5 March 1943, Tilefish fired two torpedoes at S-2 , but one missed, and one hit S-2 after being hit S-2 "emitted a huge sheet of flames and slowly sank
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Ships in class: (laid down-launched-commissioned - fate)

S-1 (ex CL-10) Converted 1922-1924 - Sunk 1934
S-2 (ex CL-11) Converted 1922-1924 - Sunk 1943
S-3 (ex CL-12) Converted 1922-1924 - Sunk 1934


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Post subject: Re: Kantai islandsPosted: September 14th, 2017, 11:29 am
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the Fuyutsuki class destroyer were a class of 15 destroyers of the Kantai navy. The Fuyutsuki class ships were a slightly larger and updated version of the previous Murakumo class. Externally, the design went to a four smokestack profile, with a curved, rather than straight bow.

Ordered: 15 October 1913
Laid down: 24 May 1914
Launched: 2 November 1915
Commissioned: 12 September 1916
Decommissioned: 10 February 1930
Struck: 30 February 1930
Fate: Sold 19 July 1931
Status: Broken up for scrap

General characteristics

Displacement: 1,030 long tons (1,050 t) normal, 1,150 long tons (1,170 t)
Length: 98 m (323 ft)
Beam: 8.6 m (28 ft)
Draft: 2.7 m (8.9 ft)
Installed power: 3-shaft steam turbine, 10 heavy oil-fired boilers 27,000 ihp (20,000 kW)

Armament:
3 × single TYPE 10 12cm
3 × twin TYPE 6 53cm ( 533mm) torpedo tubes
1 x single TYPE 8 7cm
Armour:
Deck: .(13–25 mm)
Conning Tower: (50 mm)
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Fuyutsuki was lost in a collision with the destroyer Murakumo on 15 June 1917 in the Korea Strait, south of Cheju.
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in 1918 the last four Fuyutsuki class ships were reordered to a completely different design that ultimately resulted in the Take Class.
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Ships in class: (laid down-launched-commissioned - fate)

Fuyutsuki 1914-1915-1916 - Suck 1917
Hanazuki 1914-1915-1916 - Decommissioned 1929
Shimotsuki 1914-1915-1916 - Decommissioned 1929
Suzutsuki 1914-1915-1916 - Decommissioned 1929
Yoizuki 1915-1916-1917 - Decommissioned 1930
unnamed - /-/-/ - Reordered to a different design in 1915
unnamed - /-/-/ - Reordered to a different design in 1915
unnamed - /-/-/ - Reordered to a different design in 1915
unnamed - /-/-/ - Reordered to a different design in 1915


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