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Post subject: Antara 2.5Posted: January 30th, 2018, 3:04 pm
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Antara 2.5

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Soldierbucket/Charscale thread

Foreword

Since this AU is officially being rebooted (again), everything prior to 8 Oct 2019 is out of date and subject to updates. They won't be removed as they, at most, only need their history and some specifications changed. RIP me I've got a lot of work to do

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Link to gallery of territorial changes of the World War

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Snippet of the timeline from Year 810 to 1404

Evinheim Naval Treaty of 1323 (ENT)
Ishidny Incident - 1356

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Post subject: Re: AntaraPosted: January 30th, 2018, 3:05 pm
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Ship classes of the Antaran Navy
Destroyers

TB-1 to 7 (1292)
TB-8 class (1298-1300)
TB-21 class (1301)
TB-30 class (1302-1303)
TB-40 class (1305)
Octavia & Eriss class (1307-1308)
TB-50 class (1309)
Dayson class (1309-1310)
Campbell class (1311)
TB-60 class (1312-1316)
Cambria class (1314-1316)
Ember class (1316-1317)
Chiaki class (1318-1321)
Rosental class (1320-1322)
Oscar class (1324-1325)
Arabella class (1328-1329)
Paris class (1330)
Jinora class (1333-1334)
Leo and Nightly class (1334-1339)
Heidi class (1339-1340)
Shannon class (1344-1347)
Syce class (1346-1348)
O'Gara class(1351)
Erin class (1354-1355)
Shaw class (1358-1359)
Solace class (1370-1379)
Ackerman class (1376-1383)
Coleman class (1384-1385)
Bradford class (1392-1446)
Monaca class (1424-1446)

ARS Langley, Paris class
Preliminary designs

Frigates

Dominique class (1326-1330)
Vihero class (1333)
Gremary class (1342-1343)
Reyna class(1343)
Valentine class (1343-1345)
Cora class (1344-1346)
Farber class (1344-1346)
Colette class (1345)
Memphis class (1346-1347)

Corvettes

Fulca class (1322-1323
Mordred class (1340)
Domez class (1343)
1364 class
Modular Signature Suppressed Corvette

Light cruisers

Haraburg class (1391-1392)
Darlington class (1397-1398)
St Erica class (1301-1303)
Jinora class (1304-1305)
Meridian class (1306)
Theodora class (1309)
Batchelor class (1310)
Ashington class (1314)
Maizono class (1317)
Princeton class (1326-1328)
Sinclair class (1334-1338)
Jacinta class (1338-1341)
Maya class (1339-1343)
Jericho class (1344-1347)
St Azia class (1350)
Mizriah class (1354)

Heavy cruisers

Union Grove class (1328-1329)
New Chester class (1332-1334)
Eisenburg class (1338)
Iris class (1338-1340)
Shiloh class (1342-1345)

Project CH-11C (Kannevets)

Armoured Cruisers

Lindberg class
Monroe class
Monmouth class
Kimberly class
Shuri class
Isadora class

Guided missile cruisers

Carida City class (1380-1400)[Outdated]
San Sadara class (1406-1410)[De-canonized]

Battlecruisers

Arcadia class (1313)
Vescadia class (1313)
Leocadia class (1316-1317)
Nucadia class (1335-1336)[Outdated]

Battleships

King Eisen I class(1167)
Duke of Umbara class (1305-1306)
Colonet class (1307-1308)
Emperor Franklin I class (1309-1311)
St Katherine class (1316-1317)
St Mia class (1317-1318)
St Isaac class (1318-1326)
Empress Victoria class (1323-1324)
Princess Erica class (1337-1340)
Empress Azura class (1342-1345)
Emperor William IV class (1343)

Fleet Carriers

Carpathia class (1339)
New Andreas class (1342-1345)
Deadre class (1345-1347)
Umbara class (1347-1349)

Light Carriers

White Coast-class (1340-1343)
Amber March class (1343-1345)
Saskia Bay (1344)
Victoria Bay (1345)
Lucentia Bay (1372)

Escort Carriers

Atamont Bay class (1342-1345)
Montarrel Bay class (1344-1349)

Coastal Submarines

V-66 class (1337)

Fleet Submarines

V-78 class (1340)
V-84 class (1341)
V-100 class (1342-1343)
V-117 class (1342)
V-119 class (1343-1346)
V-212 class (1346-1350)

Hunter-Killer Submarines

V-287 class (1349-1351)
V-300 class (1353-1355)

Mine layers

Cager class (1320)
Cassidy class (1329)
Maki class (1340)

Assault/Landing ships

Flemming-class (1345-1346)

Repair ships/tenders

Agrasil-class (1330)

Small craft/ships

PGR-21 class river gunboat
Coastal patrol boats of the World War
Armoured river boats of the World War
River gunboats
Sub chasers of the World War
Dioscorea-class (1356)
Potentilla-class (1358)
Eugenia-class (1376)

Other ships

Leopard-class brig (1095)
Prince Eisen class man'o'war (1097)

Ship classes of the Imperial Osoran Navy
Battleships and battlecruisers
Kaika class (1316-1318)

Destroyers

Mayonaka class (1326)
Nitari class (1333-1335)
Uzura class (1335-1336)
Suzume class (1345-1346)

Cruisers
Numara class (1318-1322)
Mizuri class (1332-1335)

Aircraft carriers
Kuzuryu class (1338)

Ship classes of the Wesmeric Navy
Destroyers

S class (1319)
D class (1334-1335)
G class (1341)

Cruisers
Wispess class (1332-1336)

Ship classes of the Siegmaric Navy
Destroyers

Type 1331 class (1331-1335)
Type 1335 class (1335-1337)
Type 1340 class (1340-1341)

Cruisers
Diamantberg class
Gosling class (1331-1334)
Mandorf class (1332-1334)
Elsense class (1334-1337)

Battleships

Rosenberg class (1337-1338)

Submarines
Type XII-class (1340)

Ship classes of the Libeccian Navy
Destroyers

Rozante class (1324-1326)
Vortice class (1336-1337)

Ship classes of the Salian Navy
Destroyers
Dragonne class (1331-1332)

Ship classes of the Desnian Navy
Destroyers
Varkov class (1340-1341)

Vessels from misc. navies

H-class submarine (1336)

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Post subject: Re: AntaraPosted: January 30th, 2018, 3:07 pm
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Oscar class destroyer

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Developed from the Winters class, the Oscar class made a major leap in displacement and a substantial improvement over Antara's already solid Great War era destroyers. It was the first in the navy to mount a dual purpose artillery and long range torpedoes. A common drawback to Antara's early post-GW destroyers were the lack of powerful power plants for it's destroyers, Oscar boasted only 35 knots during trials.

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Ships in Class

Displacement - 1315 tonnes standard
Speed - 35 knots
Range - 5000nm at 14 knots
Main battery - 4xI 127mm/45
Torpedoes - 2xIV 530mm

Ships in Class

Oscar - Sunk in surface action, 1342
Osbourne - Sunk during attack on Port Isla, 1342
Vickers - Scrapped, 1349
Allison - Sunk during attack on Port Isla, 1342
Levine - Torpedoed by submarine, 1346
Franco - Scrapped, 1349
Clayton - Scrapped, 1349
Velasquez - Sunk in surface action, 1343

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Post subject: Re: AntaraPosted: January 30th, 2018, 7:37 pm
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Arabella class destroyer

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The Arabella class destroyers was developed from the previous Oscar destroyers. The notable improvement being the additional 127mm mount. The total length was increased to support the added weight as well as to support a newer engine room, which resolved the previous issue of speed, the Arabella class clocked in at an average of 37.8 knots.

The limited firing arc of the #3 mount prompted several captains, not just on the Arabella class, to have it removed and replaced with 38mm autocannons guns, this became more popular as the war dragged on and Osoran airpower was noted.

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Main battery - 5x1 127mm/45
Torpedoes - 2x4 530mm
Speed - 37.8 knots average
Displacement - 1550 tonnes

Non-camouflaged versions - https://imgur.com/a/GuSf5Tf

Ships in class

Arabella - Sunk in action, 1344
Emily - Sunk in action, 1344
Septam - Scrapped, 1350
Vera - Scrapped, 1350
Komaru - Sunk in action, 1344
Eastwood - Sunk in action, 1342
Runa - Sunk in action, 1344
Enzo - Sunk in action, 1344

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Post subject: Re: AntaraPosted: January 30th, 2018, 7:48 pm
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Great work, glad you are finally posting all this stuff. We need more AUs with drawings ;)

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Post subject: Re: AntaraPosted: January 30th, 2018, 8:40 pm
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Wow, these are really nice destroyers.


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Vicker's scheme is 10/10. I hope you get your other classes ready soon.

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Post subject: Re: AntaraPosted: January 31st, 2018, 4:00 pm
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The Evinheim Naval Treaty was a treaty by the major participants of the Great War to prevent an arms race by limiting naval construction.

Background

One of the terms of the Evinheim Concordat, which ended the Great War, was the halting of capital ship construction for ten years by the 'losing' side of the war, namely Wesmere and Saliam. The terms that related to naval affairs were emphasized to be temporary until a greater treaty could be negotiated to better decide the future the world's superpowers. This treaty would nullify those terms expressed by the Concordat, however if common ground could not be reached, the terms of the Concordat would remain in effect.

The rapid buildup of Antaran naval power shortly before, during and after the Great War caught the attention of the other superpowers, and the so-called 'destruction' of the Wesmeric Navy at the hands of Antara and Siegmaria created a panic amongst the world leaders. Antara, Siegmaria and Desnia, all on good terms with one another and all massive naval powers, called for the conference to prevent a naval arms race against one another. Wesmere would be included in order to ratify the terms of the Concordat.

Talks took place from 13 February to 29 April 1323.

Negotiators

Antara

Morgan F. Reyes, Minister of the Navy (February)
Nora M. Jacobs, Minister of the Navy (March)

Siegmaria

Otto Altenburg, Großfürst der Kriegsmarine (Grand leader of the Navy)

Wesmere

Sir Blake Relish, High Lord of the Navy
Sir George Hayworth, Prime Minister

Desnia

Mikhail Sidorov, Minister of the Navy

Signatories

Antara

Emperor William V

Siegmaria

Kaiser Heinrich von Friedeberg

Wesmere

King Neville III

Desnia

Prime Minister Nikolai Ruslanov

Summary of terms

Wesmere proposed to keep to the ten year break of capital construction (until 1333) so long as it was extended to all other signing nations. The parties to object were the Antarans, who were concerned about their vessels currently under construction. In light of this, Siegmaria put another idea on the table: current projects would be allowed to be completed provided they met certain tonnage and number requirements.

Antara would be allowed to complete the three Empress Victoria battleships. Siegmaria would be allowed to construct the two Schardler class ships and one Sommer class and Wesmere would only be allowed to finish two of the three Insuperable class.

Total capital ship tonnage (a vessel whose main armament was greater than 11"/280mm) was limited between signing nations. Limits were made on a per nation case and were as follows:

Siegmaria : 540 000 tonnes
Antara : 420 000 tonnes
Wesmere : 240 000 tonnes
Desnia : 180 000 tonnes

All nations had colonial holdings and requirements for trade protection to various extents, and thus were all allowed large fleets based on their holdings and participation during the Great War. Wesmere and Saliam were among the most powerful combatants of the war, as Wesmere had lost the war and some of her holdings, the nation was severely punished. Antara gained many territories and the ability to operate in Aemore.

Additionally, these capital needed to displace up to 35k tonnes standard with a maximum gun caliber of 18.1"/460mm. Navies were expected to modify their vessels under construction to fit the limits. After the ten year gap was passed capital ship production may continue with the same tonnage and gun caliber limits. Participating nations would be required to scrap vessels if they exceeded the limits, which was indeed what occurred, in large numbers following the signing of the treaty.

Wesmere brought forward the proposal to allow for a single existing capital ship to be converted to an aircraft carrier and be ignored by the tonnage restrictions, with Antara making a counter proposal of four ships. It was eventually settled with two vessels for all nations. Antara would convert King James I and St Isaac and rename them to Carpathia and Carmilla. Siegmaria would convert Ortenberg and Rotenstein. Wesmere would convert Sagacious and Effulgent.

After limits for capital ships had been agreed upon, discussion turned to large combatants, which included cruisers. Signing nations would not be allowed to construct any warships with a tonnage greater than 10k tonnes standard and with a gun caliber exceeding 8"/203mm, other than that already agreed upon previously. Siegmaria made the proposal to limit the total tonnage of cruiser type vessels, thereby defining a cruiser as a surface warship between 3000-10000 tonnes.

There were further negotiations that separated the armament of cruisers, defining a light cruiser with a main battery smaller or equal to than 6"/155mm, with a heavy cruiser exceeding that. Heavy cruisers could not displace more than the total light cruiser tonnage. Total cruiser limits per nation were as follows:

Siegmaria : 400 000 tonnes
Antara : 340 000 tonnes
Wesmere :180 000 tonnes
Desnia : 120 000 tonnes

As several nations wanted to experiment with large aircraft carriers, restrictions on total aircraft carrier tonnage after the definition of a carrier was defined as a vessel whose primary function is the launching of aircraft and has a dedicated flight deck that is at least half the vessel's length. Dedicated aircraft carriers were allowed to be built and converted from (excluding the previous conversions agreed upon earlier) 1332. Tonnage were as follows:

Siegmaria : 200 000 tonnes
Antara : 170 000 tonnes
Wesmere :80 000 tonnes
Desnia : 100 000 tonnes

The treaty would remain in effect until 1343.

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Post subject: Re: AntaraPosted: January 31st, 2018, 4:04 pm
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Jinora class destroyer

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The Jinora classes inherited the same basic shape as the Arabella and Oscar class with a slight increase in length, but was the first Antaran destroyer class to mount 610mm torpedoes, based on the Kurodai scare. The new torpedoes were only marginally better in terms of range and speed but mounted a bigger warhead, but despite this they were still a far cry to the power the oxygen torpedoes the Osoran navy used.

The battery remained the same with an improvement to the mounts, now being powered, the quicker rotation meant it was able to track aircraft more effectively. It's AA suite received small updates in the addition of single 40mm guns which were added sparingly due to the small amount of supply.

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Main battery - 5x1 127mm/45
Torpedoes - 2x4 610mm
Speed - 38.1 knots
Displacement - 1670 tonnes

Ships in class

Jinora - Scrapped, 1351
Lea - Sunk during attack on Port Isla, 1342
Debara - Sunk during attack on Port Isla, 1342
Vesenu - Sunk in action, 1343
Helena - Scrapped, 1350
Lorraine - Sunk in action, 1344
Carrywood - Sunk in action, 1342
Farrow - Sunk in action, 1344
Speirs - Scrapped, 1349
Anara - Sunk by Kamikaze, 1348
Jivera - Sunk in action, 1344

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Post subject: Re: AntaraPosted: February 2nd, 2018, 7:50 pm
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Leo and Nightly class destroyers

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The Leo class, compared to the previous Jinora class , featured a revised gun and machinery layout, as well as a general change in the class's overall layout. Both torpedo launchers were placed on the same deck level which allowed for more compartment space space and made the main deck less crowded. The Leo class was also longer and had her displacement increase by 50 tonnes, bringing her to 1600 tonnes, which was pretty large for her time. Her beam became wider to correct the top heaviness of previous classes.

The Nightly class followed in 1338 and were built to a larger tonnage, differing length, superstructure and torpedo layout, allowing for more powerful boilers for a faster speed. The Nightly subclass also mounted a different model of the 127mm/45 which were lighter. To counter top heaviness, her aft torpedo launchers were replaced with two triple launchers mounted on each side, and the reloads were landed.

Both classes were considered solid warships and thus saw the most action, and in turn had the highest losses of any classes in the Antaran Navy during the WW , however in addition 66 Osoran , Siegmaric and Libeccian were sunk by members of both classes, also giving it the highest kill count in the Navy.

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Nightly blanks - https://imgur.com/a/J50tTM8

Main battery - 5x1 130mm/45

Torpedoes -
2xIV 610mm (Leo)
1xIV & 2xIII 610mm (Nightly)

Speed
36-37 knots (Leo)
39-40 knots (Nightly)

Displacement
1600 tonnes standard (Leo class)
1800 tonnes standard (Nightly class]

Ships in class

Leo class

Leo - Sunk in action, 1346
Kameron - Sunk in action, 1346
Ellana - Scrapped, 1350
Walsworth - scuttled, 1344
Ashwood - Scrapped, 1350
Carmosino - Sunk by air attack, 1344
Richmond - Sunk in action, 1342
Caleb - Scrapped, 1350
Hariss - Torpedoed by submarine, 1345
Zeela - Sunk in action, 1344
Conoway - Sunk by kamikaze, 1347
Nathan - Scrapped, 1350
Ragsdale - Scrapped, 1349
Angelo - Sunk in action, 1344
Davies - Scrapped, 1349
Lara - Sunk in action, 1342
Chimar - Sunk in action, 1343
Mazziota - Sunk by air attack, 1342
Katherine - Scrapped, 1350
Robinson - Torpedoed by submarine, 1343
Hughes - Scrapped, 1349
Brianhart - Sunk in action, 1342
Carlton - Scrapped, 1347
Tatum - Scrapped, 1350

Nightly class

Nightly - Scrapped, 1348
Mei - Sunk in action, 1344
Baron - Sunk by air attack, 1345
Arden - Sunk in action, 1342
Huthsing - Sunk in action, 1345
Edwards - Sunk during attack on Port Isla, 1342
Siren - Scrapped, 1349
Corwood - Sunk in action, 1343
Lascher - Scrapped, 1350
Daisy - Sunk by friendly fire, 1344
Delila - Sunk by kamikaze, 1347
Urana - Sunk in action, 1342
Mardones - Grounded, 1345
Granger - Scrapped, 1350
Benton - Sunk in action, 1344
Briggs - Sunk during attack on Port Isla, 1342
McMillan - Scrapped, 1350
Teagon - Sunk by kamikaze, 1346
Cheverie - Scrapped, 1349
Veswood - Sunk by kamikaze, 1347
Hefferman - Scrapped, 1350
Sadara - Sunk in action, 1343
DeMaine - Sunk in action, 1346
Harper - Torpedoed, 1342
Howland - Scrapped, 1349
De Marc - Scrapped, 1349
Cassidy - Sunk in action, 1344

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