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Hood
Post subject: Re: American Dreadnoughts - Possible AlternativesPosted: November 6th, 2018, 8:38 am
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Looks much better now, the Nassau-type layout looks particularly good.

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Post subject: Re: American Dreadnoughts - Possible AlternativesPosted: November 6th, 2018, 7:01 pm
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Hood wrote: *
Looks much better now, the Nassau-type layout looks particularly good.
Interesting fact on the side: One of the Nassau-class preliminary designs had cage masts as well.

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Post subject: Re: American Dreadnoughts - Possible AlternativesPosted: November 6th, 2018, 7:29 pm
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Would a cage mast be suitable for the North Sea? I was under the impression that those types of masts caught the wind and caused excessive stress and movement in strong gales.


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Post subject: Re: American Dreadnoughts - Possible AlternativesPosted: November 6th, 2018, 7:38 pm
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As I understand it, the shortcomings of cage masts weren't really known until they'd been in service for a number of years. Certainly the USN seemed to think they were the be-all and end-all solution to all mast problems.


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Post subject: Re: American Dreadnoughts - Possible AlternativesPosted: November 6th, 2018, 7:45 pm
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The way I've heard it they used it because you didn't simply bring them down. The navy shot 200 12" shells at a replica of the South Carolinas mast without them coming down.


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Post subject: Re: American Dreadnoughts - Possible AlternativesPosted: November 6th, 2018, 11:53 pm
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I have added a design number 3 with a layout that is based on a ship you'll never be able to guess.


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Post subject: Re: American Dreadnoughts - Possible AlternativesPosted: November 7th, 2018, 1:02 am
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If you want it to be truly impossible to guess then you should move the forward cage mast behind the forefunnel :lol: ;)

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Post subject: Re: American Dreadnoughts - Possible AlternativesPosted: November 7th, 2018, 10:00 am
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Karle94 wrote: *
The way I've heard it they used it because you didn't simply bring them down. The navy shot 200 12" shells at a replica of the South Carolinas mast without them coming down.
What two-hundred 305mm shells :roll: can do, apparently the wind can do it to him
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Post subject: Re: American Dreadnoughts - Possible AlternativesPosted: November 7th, 2018, 10:46 pm
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Karle94 wrote: *
I have added a design number 3 with a layout that is based on a ship you'll never be able to guess.
It is quite obvious to see from what ship it was taken, and as BB1987 said, move the mast behind the fore-funnel

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Post subject: Re: American Dreadnoughts - Possible AlternativesPosted: November 8th, 2018, 3:37 pm
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Colombamike wrote: *
Karle94 wrote: *
The way I've heard it they used it because you didn't simply bring them down. The navy shot 200 12" shells at a replica of the South Carolinas mast without them coming down.
What two-hundred 305mm shells :roll: can do, apparently the wind can do it to him
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Well this is after the cagemast was damaged by a barrel explosion, and wind plus heavy manouvres....
So its an countup off events Colombike.

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