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Post subject: Re: Late Victorian Cruiser ChallengePosted: September 9th, 2017, 8:30 pm
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There's nothing preventing you from changing it a bit and reuploading on your post. Personally I think you're a bit too light on small QF guns.


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Post subject: Re: Late Victorian Cruiser ChallengePosted: September 10th, 2017, 8:42 pm
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This is my protected cruiser for the challenge (also a WIP: the shipyards at the Levant are somewhat slow :? ).
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Not so big, but fast. Not very much armourd, but the deck is of Krupp cemented steel plates. The main guns are not of the usual caliber, but the 4.7 inchers / 40 pounders are QF instead BL, and torpedo tubes. As every naval vessel of my AU Navy, the range is not outstanding.
Credits: I tried to give to the nice Novik done by GD, a less "German" bow and stern, and a general stylistic appearnance more or less compatible to the previous cruiser. Cheers.


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Post subject: Re: Late Victorian Cruiser ChallengePosted: September 10th, 2017, 9:16 pm
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Here is my first cretan post in this thread : The 1899 class cruisers.
As said before the cretan warship class are named by year of launch of the first ship. They built a 4 cruisers class every 4 years.
The ships of the 1899 class were named after horses pulling Helios sun chariot:
- Phlegon,
- Pyrios,
- Aeos,
- Aethon.
To rationalize their cruiser fleet, cretan had only one type: cruiser, which was between protected and armored ones.But concretely this were big protected cruiser.
These ships were the last cretan protected cruisers. They were some of the ( if not simply "the") biggest, strongest and fastest ship of this type ever built.
They were built by two different yards with a different conning tower layout.
Has most of the cretan warship of the era they showed a heavy french influence in there design. It this particular case they were almost elongated JURIEN DE LA GRAVIÈRE with 4 twin turrets arranged in echelon and a stronger structure.
Overview: 6.900 tons normal, 8.100 tons full load, 26 knots, 4x2 – 165mm/45, 4x1 – 165mm/45, 24 x 1 - 47mm/40, 4 - 450 torpedo tubes, Armour 65-45mm horizontal.
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The group P ships (Phlegon and Pyrios) complied exactly to the original design with a high conning tower.
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The group A ships (Aeos and Aethon) had a lowered conning tower, different funnels and rigging.
Previously to the second (and last) battleship of the 1900 class, the last group A cruiser experimented turbine powerplant.

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Post subject: Re: Late Victorian Cruiser ChallengePosted: September 11th, 2017, 9:17 pm
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I do love the French look of your Cretan cruisers, but I think that, as they were built by two different yards, it might be a good idea to make some more drastic change to their looks, apart from the conning tower arrangement. An example change is a slightly different funnels arrangement, like having them evenly spaced, more forward, or moving the aft two funnels to the space between two central gun houses.

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Post subject: Re: Late Victorian Cruiser ChallengePosted: September 11th, 2017, 10:10 pm
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I do love the French look of your Cretan cruisers, but I think that, as they were built by two different yards, it might be a good idea to make some more drastic change to their looks, apart from the conning tower arrangement. An example change is a slightly different funnels arrangement, like having them evenly spaced, more forward, or moving the aft two funnels to the space between two central gun houses.
Guess what? i've just finished to draw new funnels for the Phlegon.
As you might have understoud, j was hesitating betwin two conning tower. J've also came to the conclusion that more differences might be needed.

Maybe j should also change the rigging.......................

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Post subject: Re: Late Victorian Cruiser ChallengePosted: September 11th, 2017, 11:19 pm
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Looks powerful, and she is fast and well protected. Indeed,
she must be expensive, but she worths the money. Cheers.


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Post subject: Re: Late Victorian Cruiser ChallengePosted: September 18th, 2017, 9:08 pm
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J've updated the Phlegon with a different rigging.

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Post subject: Re: Late Victorian Cruiser ChallengePosted: November 24th, 2017, 5:50 am
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-Hello everyone, I've got another RTW design-turned-drawing for you all today! The large armored cruiser Principe de Asturias. Armed with 4 x 10-inch guns, 10 x 6-inch casemate guns, 4 x 4-inch QF guns, and 4 x 6-pounder QF guns for defense against torpedo boats. They also carried 4 x 18-inch torpedo tubes. Capable of 20 knots, these cruisers were remarkably well-armored as well, with 4.5 inches of belt armor, 1.5 inches of deck armor, 5 inches on the turrets, and 6 on the conning tower. Displacing 8,800 tons, they were the largest ships operated by the Navy outside of the battleship fleet. The class of 4 were ordered by the fleet in order to strengthen their capabilities to project power over long distances to places like the Philippines and the Caribbean. Of the 4 laid down, only 2 were commissioned, as the Spanish government found it difficult to fund the construction of all the ships. Delays and difficulty in the delivery of equipment and materials during construction at La Coruna and Cadiz. As such, 2 ships were cancelled and the materials that had been stockpiled for them were used to hasten the construction of the remaining two ships, both commissioning in 1900. Fresh from the Spanish-American War, the Spaniards were eager to show off their new ships and sent the two cruisers on a voyage around the world to demonstrate how quickly Spain had recovered from the defeat. During the Boxer Rebellion, Principe de Asturias was on station in the Philippines, and joined the allied invasion of China. During World War One, they mostly sat in port and provided coastal patrols against any attempt to bring the war into neutral Spain. After the war, they were both placed in reserve and were still lying in port when civil war broke out. The Republicans seized Independencia and took her in hand for a refit. She was fitted with funnel caps, another deckhouse atop the bridge in place of the 6-pounders, and a flak battery of 6 x 75-mm HA guns and 4 x 1-pounder Pom-pom machine guns. She was mostly based in the Mediterranean during the war, and was therefore torpedoed by an Italian submarine off of Cartagena and began to list to port. She slowed to 9 knots and her bow began slipping underwater. 10 minutes after torpedo impact, fire reached her magazines and she was torn in half. Principe de Asturias was bombed by the Fascists at her moorings and sank in just minutes in 1937.

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Post subject: Re: Late Victorian Cruiser ChallengePosted: November 24th, 2017, 7:53 am
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Great work!


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