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Post subject: Re: Late Victorian Cruiser ChallengePosted: September 9th, 2017, 8:30 pm
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There's nothing preventing you from changing it a bit and reuploading on your post. Personally I think you're a bit too light on small QF guns.


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Post subject: Re: Late Victorian Cruiser ChallengePosted: September 10th, 2017, 8:42 pm
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This is my protected cruiser for the challenge (also a WIP: the shipyards at the Levant are somewhat slow :? ).
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Not so big, but fast. Not very much armourd, but the deck is of Krupp cemented steel plates. The main guns are not of the usual caliber, but the 4.7 inchers / 40 pounders are QF instead BL, and torpedo tubes. As every naval vessel of my AU Navy, the range is not outstanding.
Credits: I tried to give to the nice Novik done by GD, a less "German" bow and stern, and a general stylistic appearnance more or less compatible to the previous cruiser. Cheers.


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Post subject: Re: Late Victorian Cruiser ChallengePosted: September 10th, 2017, 9:16 pm
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Here is my first cretan post in this thread : The 1899 class cruisers.
As said before the cretan warship class are named by year of launch of the first ship. They built a 4 cruisers class every 4 years.
The ships of the 1899 class were named after horses pulling Helios sun chariot:
- Phlegon,
- Pyrios,
- Aeos,
- Aethon.
To rationalize their cruiser fleet, cretan had only one type: cruiser, which was between protected and armored ones.But concretely this were big protected cruiser.
These ships were the last cretan protected cruisers. They were some of the ( if not simply "the") biggest, strongest and fastest ship of this type ever built.
They were built by two different yards with a different conning tower layout.
Has most of the cretan warship of the era they showed a heavy french influence in there design. It this particular case they were almost elongated JURIEN DE LA GRAVIÈRE with 4 twin turrets arranged in echelon and a stronger structure.
Overview: 6.900 tons normal, 8.100 tons full load, 26 knots, 4x2 – 165mm/45, 4x1 – 165mm/45, 24 x 1 - 47mm/40, 4 - 450 torpedo tubes, Armour 65-45mm horizontal.
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The group P ships (Phlegon and Pyrios) complied exactly to the original design with a high conning tower.
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The group A ships (Aeos and Aethon) had a lowered conning tower, different funnels and rigging.
Previously to the second (and last) battleship of the 1900 class, the last group A cruiser experimented turbine powerplant.

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Post subject: Re: Late Victorian Cruiser ChallengePosted: September 11th, 2017, 9:17 pm
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I do love the French look of your Cretan cruisers, but I think that, as they were built by two different yards, it might be a good idea to make some more drastic change to their looks, apart from the conning tower arrangement. An example change is a slightly different funnels arrangement, like having them evenly spaced, more forward, or moving the aft two funnels to the space between two central gun houses.

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Post subject: Re: Late Victorian Cruiser ChallengePosted: September 11th, 2017, 10:10 pm
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I do love the French look of your Cretan cruisers, but I think that, as they were built by two different yards, it might be a good idea to make some more drastic change to their looks, apart from the conning tower arrangement. An example change is a slightly different funnels arrangement, like having them evenly spaced, more forward, or moving the aft two funnels to the space between two central gun houses.
Guess what? i've just finished to draw new funnels for the Phlegon.
As you might have understoud, j was hesitating betwin two conning tower. J've also came to the conclusion that more differences might be needed.

Maybe j should also change the rigging.......................

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Post subject: Re: Late Victorian Cruiser ChallengePosted: September 11th, 2017, 11:19 pm
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Looks powerful, and she is fast and well protected. Indeed,
she must be expensive, but she worths the money. Cheers.


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Post subject: Re: Late Victorian Cruiser ChallengePosted: September 18th, 2017, 9:08 pm
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J've updated the Phlegon with a different rigging.

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