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Post subject: Tides of Sovereignty Class DestroyerPosted: November 2nd, 2019, 7:14 am
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Hello everyone. After a long period of inactivity, I'm back to revitalize an old project that was originally found on this post
viewtopic.php?f=18&t=6366&p=150224&hili ... er#p150224

Here is my current Rendition of the design. Please criticize it and give me any tips and advice. Thanks
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Post subject: Re: Tides of Sovereignty Class DestroyerPosted: November 2nd, 2019, 7:43 am
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You linked to the website and not to the image so the image is invisible.

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battleship lover wrote: *
Hello everyone. After a long period of inactivity, I'm back to revitalize an old project that was originally found on this post
viewtopic.php?f=18&t=6366&p=150224&hili ... er#p150224

Here is my current Rendition of the design. Please criticize it and give me any tips and advice. Thanks
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Hello everyone. After a long period of inactivity, I'm back to revitalize an old project that was originally found on this post
http://www.shipbucket.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=6366&p=150224&hilit=battleshiplover#p150224

Here is my current Rendition of the design. Please criticize it and give me any tips and advice. Thanks
[img]https://i.imgur.com/Jf4AsMH.png[/img]

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Post subject: Re: Tides of Sovereignty Class DestroyerPosted: November 2nd, 2019, 5:22 pm
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acelanceloet wrote: *
You linked to the website and not to the image so the image is invisible.

I would recommend:
battleship lover wrote: *
Hello everyone. After a long period of inactivity, I'm back to revitalize an old project that was originally found on this post
viewtopic.php?f=18&t=6366&p=150224&hili ... er#p150224

Here is my current Rendition of the design. Please criticize it and give me any tips and advice. Thanks
[ img ]
Hello everyone. After a long period of inactivity, I'm back to revitalize an old project that was originally found on this post
http://www.shipbucket.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=6366&p=150224&hilit=battleshiplover#p150224

Here is my current Rendition of the design. Please criticize it and give me any tips and advice. Thanks
[img]https://i.imgur.com/Jf4AsMH.png[/img]
Thanks for the correction @acelanceloet


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Post subject: Re: Tides of Sovereignty Class DestroyerPosted: November 2nd, 2019, 9:40 pm
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Now, for the design. What is the ship actually meant to do?
as a drawing, it could use updated parts, but what is most needed is an so-called reality check, compare the drawing with real ships to see what feels off. Systems wise, she works somewhat, but the ship doesn't look like anything that would work in real life I'm affraid due to misfitting shapes and arrangements.

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Post subject: Re: Tides of Sovereignty Class DestroyerPosted: November 7th, 2019, 7:00 am
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acelanceloet wrote: *
Now, for the design. What is the ship actually meant to do?
as a drawing, it could use updated parts, but what is most needed is an so-called reality check, compare the drawing with real ships to see what feels off. Systems wise, she works somewhat, but the ship doesn't look like anything that would work in real life I'm affraid due to misfitting shapes and arrangements.
The Tides of Sovereignty Class Destroyer is first and foremost a high endurance blue water destroyer with the goals of protecting international shipping in the interest of its parent nation; being an escort for larger surface ships such as Aircraft carriers; perform land strike missions on the coast and inland; serve as a flagship in smaller task groups; create an anti-air bubble which is difficult to breach and be capable of performing anti-submarine warfare.

So is the main issue of the current iteration is that it looks weird and needs updated parts?


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Post subject: Re: Tides of Sovereignty Class DestroyerPosted: November 11th, 2019, 2:01 am
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Just some initial points

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1- Doubling up of lines and being rounded rather undoes the stealthy profile you seem to be going for, angled is far better, I'm not sure about deck penetration for RAM but I'm betting you could bolt directly to the hangar roof

2- too "hard" an angle, look at ships like Lafayette and Nansen, they have superstructure faces closer to vertical, (~12-25 deg from vertical)

3- re: being stealthy, avoid straight vertical surfaces

4- hard angles as well confusing shading, this seems to mean this section is also angled backwards

5-no shading under overhand (also the bridge windows are unmatched to the angles they represent with shading )

6-if you have to move this, you have a too small template, maybe XL

7- Panama bows should be deck mounted not on the bulwark unless you want to bend the life out of it, ditto the nearby door as it looks like its 4ft above the deck

Also a lot of inconsistent lines on the ships, mostly lack lines where grey would make more sense due to angles and there's about 5 different shades of said lines going on. Is this the original spruced up or an new one for the ground as it has the hall marks of a drawing from a few years back with newer parts and some work on top.

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