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Colombamike
Post subject: Re: Some ships for my AUPosted: February 9th, 2014, 12:44 pm
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Hi Colombamike,
I have a query, if you have a moment - is there a significant cost difference between "stealth" designed ships and more normally-designed ones? I'm just curious as to the cost-benefit between a stealth diving support ship and a more normally-designed one...Regards,Adam
Sorry for my (usual) very bad english :mrgreen:
For this "auxiliary warship design", I think there is confusion between the "stealth" and "modern-clean/streamlined/straightforward" words :oops: :D

The Pegasus206 ship drawing seem to date from 1980s/1990s (supertructures/bridge/mast style of this era).

The superstructures/bridge/hull of the Almak "seems more modern/cleaner/"angular-shaped hull""...
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Post subject: Re: Some ships for my AUPosted: February 9th, 2014, 1:25 pm
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Like Mike pointed out, those aren't stealth features, though the share a common aesthetics.
When building with steel, or just about any material really, curves are expensive, compound curves even more so. That's why so many designs have moved to angular structures. By eliminating curves and using flat planes instead you can reduce the construction costs significantly.

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Post subject: Re: Some ships for my AUPosted: February 9th, 2014, 1:35 pm
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Further to the production issues outlined by Thiel, on this particular ship that chine may help with seakeeping - it will act like a bilge keel to some extent. The bulbous bow may actually be more useful for motions than resistance, too.

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Post subject: Re: Some ships for my AUPosted: February 9th, 2014, 1:38 pm
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Ahh, I see

So, to slot the answers into the original question, yes, there is a cost difference - in favour of the "stealth" design, which is why everybody's going that way.

I do like it when the question I asked wasn't the one I should have been asking but I get the right answer anyway :D

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Post subject: Re: Some ships for my AUPosted: February 9th, 2014, 1:41 pm
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There was a study on this many moons ago - I only heard about it second hand but the upshot was that a basic level of stealth will reduce both the unit purchase / production cost, through increased use of flat plates, and the through-life cost, due to the reduction in corrosion traps and the relocation or removal of upperdeck equipment that would need maintaining. The issue is if you try to push for very high levels of stealth, when you end up with unusual materials and hull shapes, with the attendant cost and risk increases.

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Post subject: Re: Some ships for my AUPosted: February 9th, 2014, 11:23 pm
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Thanks for that information guys i keep the design like it is and let it be a 1980/1990 design. So that i can bild a new type with this information.

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Post subject: Re: Some ships for my AUPosted: February 10th, 2014, 4:45 am
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I was thinking mostly of the superstructure, but as RP1 pointed out it's also true for the hull.

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Post subject: Re: Some ships for my AUPosted: February 11th, 2014, 9:00 pm
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Here is a new type it wold be bild between 1980 and 2000



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Post subject: Re: Some ships for my AUPosted: April 18th, 2015, 4:04 pm
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Here is the first off my new work afther my laptop crash and the trouble with Majhost. As i have lost most of the things for my AU The Kingdom of Rochfort i will start a new one . This AU will start at the begin off ww2.

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Post subject: Re: Some ships for my AUPosted: April 18th, 2015, 4:11 pm
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according to your shading this ship has a cavity midships, a round bow and a diagonal skeg....... I don't think that was your purpose, was it?
other then that, the ship looks big for it's arnament and the machinery arrangement.... is it BR-ER-BR? also, the rudder looks somewhat small.

I do like her looks, but I think some refining is to be done to perfect her :P

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