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heuhen
Post subject: FF-310 Fridtjof Nansen Wartime equipmentPosted: December 15th, 2010, 10:33 pm
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FF-310 Fridtjof Nansen with Wartime equipment:

2 x LRAD Long Range Acoustic Device
1 × 8-cell Mk41 VLS w/ 32 × RIM-162 ESSM
3 × spare 8- cell Mk41 VLS launchers
Low cost ASW
8 × Naval Strike Missile SSMs
1 × Otobreda 127 mm/54 gun
1 × spare 76mm OTO Melara Super Rapid gun
4 × torpedo tubes for Sting Ray torpedoes
Depth charges
1 × spare CIWS gun w/ calibre 40 mm or less
4 × 12,7 mm Browning M2HB HMG Sea PROTECTOR
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Post subject: Re: FF-310 Fridtjof Nansen Wartime equipmentPosted: December 16th, 2010, 7:19 am
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you have used the old oto melara parts. look in the parts sheet discussions for the good ones.

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Post subject: Re: FF-310 Fridtjof Nansen Wartime equipmentPosted: December 16th, 2010, 7:50 am
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Post subject: Re: FF-310 Fridtjof Nansen Wartime equipmentPosted: December 16th, 2010, 4:17 pm
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I also see nothing in this ship worth crediting. the mistakes that are made are huge, such as:
-removed all railing
-added an MG on a place that will be burned if a missile is fired
-gun added which will penetrate the hangar
-torpedo is not shown on surface ships.

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Post subject: Re: FF-310 Fridtjof Nansen Wartime equipmentPosted: December 16th, 2010, 6:03 pm
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Or for that matter, that the Norweigans will never add such "wartime equipment" that would seriously overload a perfectly good frigate as it is.


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Post subject: Re: FF-310 Fridtjof Nansen Wartime equipmentPosted: December 16th, 2010, 8:13 pm
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My stepfather was one of the bosses under the frigate project "new Norwegian frigates" so I know some about these boats. ;)

railings were replaced with aluminum plates because these frigates will have some stealth capabilities, so the vessel is more difficult for radars and missiles to detect, and then you can not have railing due they give very much radar reflection, a single aluminium plate in angle will not.

When it comes to the cannon on the aft deck you'll get the ammunition delivered over the deck, and will save some ammunition in the gun, it will provide some limited applications, but the 74mm has the property that it can shoot down missiles.


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Post subject: Re: FF-310 Fridtjof Nansen Wartime equipmentPosted: December 16th, 2010, 8:20 pm
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heuhen wrote:
railings were replaced with aluminum plates because these frigates will have some stealth capabilities, so the vessel is more difficult for radars and missiles to detect, and then you can not have railing due they give very much radar reflection, a single aluminium plate in angle will not.
yes, but you have entirely REMOVED the railing on the bow. that is not an good idea. also, by adding those extra light machine guns you will remove all the extra stealth enclosing railing adds.
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When it comes to the cannon on the aft deck you'll get the ammunition delivered over the deck, and will save some ammunition in the gun, it will provide some limited applications, but the 74mm has the property that it can shoot down missiles.
first of all: it is an 76 mm. second: it has deck penetration. it can't be placed over there, unless you remove the hangar. no other options.
even if your idea worked: I wish the ones who deliver the ammo over the deck in mid-battle good luck. you need two men to carry the projectiles, and the gun can fire like...... 60 a minute or so? so you will need around 200 men constantly working to keep the gun working.

maybe you know something about the ship, but not about weapons and naval architecture in general, if I look at what you are drawing and saying.

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Post subject: Re: FF-310 Fridtjof Nansen Wartime equipmentPosted: December 16th, 2010, 9:36 pm
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When it comes to the that gun you have to talk to the man that designed the boat. He designed the room for the cannon on the hangar! Light Machine Guns are not meant to be there permanently regardless of what situation the boat is in.

I could say just for fun that I'm designing ships like this stuff and other types of special vessels, but mostly offshore supply vessels and various yachts. But it will be completely crazy to say somthing like that or! :?

But design is now real. for one has many versions of the boat, I designed the only all-in to be certain what it can carry.


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Post subject: Re: FF-310 Fridtjof Nansen Wartime equipmentPosted: December 17th, 2010, 5:30 am
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It's nice to see that the Shipbucket forum is still such an accepting place to new drawers.

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Post subject: Re: FF-310 Fridtjof Nansen Wartime equipmentPosted: December 17th, 2010, 7:58 am
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Shipbucket has always accepting new shipbucket-drawers, we have never been closing the doors from them.

But we don't welcome randon bandwith eaters who just hang around in the forum, complaining about everything and showing no respect to the bucket. This forums sole purpose is to be the communication arena for shipbucket drawers, not being some forum were you can chew shit, there are plenty of those around internet.

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