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Psilander
Post subject: Re: Imperial Swedish NavyPosted: August 14th, 2016, 10:16 pm
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They are "allround" for both brown and blue water mission. I used the IRL Hajen III class as model, she is 79x5,3x5,1m and the USS Grayback 96x8x5,1m and tried to fit her in between.

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Post subject: Re: Imperial Swedish NavyPosted: August 15th, 2016, 7:41 am
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I agree the Hajen needs more beam and judging from the drawing, more hull depth too. The internal arrangements would be very cramped otherwise.
I do like the idea of mounting the SSMs at the stern though, might be less draggy underwater?

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Post subject: Re: Imperial Swedish NavyPosted: August 17th, 2016, 9:17 pm
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These submarines could be less-than-perfect designs if they were real, but I like them.

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Post subject: Re: Imperial Swedish NavyPosted: August 17th, 2016, 10:10 pm
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I don't know much about submarines but could you explain the launch sequence for the missile sub thanks. At present it looks like if it launched as is it would go straight into the back of the sail, so there must be more to launching than what you have described so far.


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Post subject: Re: Imperial Swedish NavyPosted: August 22nd, 2016, 10:38 am
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Krakatoa wrote:
I don't know much about submarines but could you explain the launch sequence for the missile sub thanks. At present it looks like if it launched as is it would go straight into the back of the sail, so there must be more to launching than what you have described so far.
The missile is stored in the aft magazine, when firimg, the missile is loaded on the launcher which is trainable and can be turned to fire the missile over the broadside but not dead ahead. I looks like the irl rail on the Hallanads excempt the torpedotube.

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Post subject: Re: Imperial Swedish NavyPosted: August 22nd, 2016, 2:24 pm
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Like these submarines, especially the Hajen III. After reading below link, I think that this missile submarine is realistic, concerning how much ideas were on the table at 1960's. Link does not mension missile submarines, but who knows, perhaps this configuration was also considered. But it did says for a nuclear submarine and alternate fuels (e.g ammonia).

http://www.bjorns-story.se/private/Sven ... ar_eng.htm

I suppose that Hajen III feature the Saab Rb 08 B missile, right?


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Post subject: Re: Imperial Swedish NavyPosted: April 9th, 2018, 8:29 pm
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A Protected cruiser/ steam corvette
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Skidbladner (Sleipner, Sigyn, Saga), Sweden Protected cruiser laid down 1876
Barbette ship

Displacement:
1 916 t light; 2 025 t standard; 2 302 t normal; 2 524 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
252,62 ft / 246,06 ft x 39,37 ft x 16,40 ft (normal load)
77,00 m / 75,00 m x 12,00 m x 5,00 m

Armament:
2 - 7,99" / 203 mm guns in single mounts, 201,64lbs / 91,46kg shells, 1876 Model
Breech loading guns in open barbettes
on centreline ends, evenly spread
4 - 3,94" / 100 mm guns in single mounts, 24,10lbs / 10,93kg shells, 1876 Model
Breech loading guns in casemate mounts
on side, all amidships
4 guns in hull casemates - Limited use in all but light seas
6 - 3,94" / 100 mm guns in single mounts, 24,10lbs / 10,93kg shells, 1876 Model
Breech loading guns in casemate mounts
on side, all amidships
8 - 2,24" / 57,0 mm guns in single mounts, 4,46lbs / 2,02kg shells, 1876 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts
on side ends, evenly spread
8 guns in hull casemates - Limited use in all but light seas
Weight of broadside 680 lbs / 308 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 150
4 - 18,0" / 457 mm submerged torpedo tubes

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 1,77" / 45 mm 239,50 ft / 73,00 m 7,51 ft / 2,29 m
Ends: 0,39" / 10 mm 0,00 ft / 0,00 m 7,51 ft / 2,29 m
6,56 ft / 2,00 m Unarmoured ends
Upper: 0,39" / 10 mm 159,94 ft / 48,75 m 8,01 ft / 2,44 m
Main Belt covers 150 % of normal length

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: - - 0,98" / 25 mm
2nd: 0,98" / 25 mm 0,39" / 10 mm 0,98" / 25 mm

- Armour deck: 0,39" / 10 mm, Conning tower: 1,97" / 50 mm

Machinery:
Coal fired boilers, simple reciprocating steam engines,
Direct drive, 1 shaft, 2 850 ihp / 2 126 Kw = 15,00 kts
Range 1 650nm at 12,00 kts (Bunkerage = 498 tons)

Complement:
166 - 216

Cost:
£0,226 million / $0,904 million

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Post subject: Re: Imperial Swedish NavyPosted: April 10th, 2018, 3:42 am
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Why is this thresd moved? It had bern in the alt universe for 10 years?

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Post subject: Re: Imperial Swedish NavyPosted: April 10th, 2018, 8:09 am
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Psilander wrote: *
Why is this thresd moved? It had bern in the alt universe for 10 years?
Probably because we have lately had several discussion with new members about shipbucket drawing rules and they quit often use your drawings as an argument: "why can he, but not us?" Your style is special and you have that permission to do so, for me at least.

It might also be because they want to distingu(ish) between different art form. Just my thoughts


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Post subject: Re: Imperial Swedish NavyPosted: April 10th, 2018, 8:11 am
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Its really nice to see you back in action Psilander, I always enjoy your Swedish AU works.

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