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Author:  Colosseum [ October 10th, 2013, 2:12 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Real Gunbucket Scale, Fake Design
Not to mention the fact that there's just not enough room in that tiny little rifle for a functioning action.

As has been suggested a million times, get the proportions from all the real life bolt actions drawn in this scale.
Author:  Trojan [ October 10th, 2013, 3:47 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Real Gunbucket Scale, Fake Design
Also, while its not as big of a factor as the above mentioned, I really don't think clear mags on the second rifle are worth the reliability issues they come with in that time. While I know the Chauchats problems weren't exclusive to the clear mags, IIRC they were a part of it and they offer little advantage with such a small amount of bullets compared to the risk of dirt and grime getting stuck in the magazine and jamming the rifle
Author:  APDAF [ October 10th, 2013, 11:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Real Gunbucket Scale, Fake Design
klagldsf wrote:
A 24 inch bayonet?
Well you've apparently decided that on your bizarro-Earth humans are a distinctly separate species, so yeah, I guess it flies now.
Nope, just taller, stronger, faster, smarted and better then normal humans.
Think Ubermensch, Kahn etc..
And the Lebel M-1886 had a 20inch spike bayonet.
Colosseum wrote:
Not to mention the fact that there's just not enough room in that tiny little rifle for a functioning action.
As has been suggested a million times, get the proportions from all the real life bolt actions drawn in this scale.
I think what I have done should now fix that problem.
Trojan wrote:
Also, while its not as big of a factor as the above mentioned, I really don't think clear mags on the second rifle are worth the reliability issues they come with in that time. While I know the Chauchats problems weren't exclusive to the clear mags,
I think you are looking at the old drawing, which is replaced by the top one. ;)
Author:  klagldsf [ October 10th, 2013, 11:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Real Gunbucket Scale, Fake Design
APDAF wrote:
Nope, just taller, stronger, faster, smarted and better then normal humans.
Think Ubermensch, Kahn etc..
http://www.shipbucket.com/forums/viewto ... 5675#p5675
Quote:
And the Lebel M-1886 had a 20inch spike bayonet.
Key words: spike bayonet:

http://www.libertytreecollectors.com/pr ... ayonet.JPG

Small, thin, lightweight for its length. And four inches is a huge difference. But whatever.
Author:  Colosseum [ October 11th, 2013, 12:37 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Real Gunbucket Scale, Fake Design
About the longest I've ever seen is a 19" bayonet for an SMLE... and that's not exactly that useful for combat. There's a reason the 8-10" bayonets were adopted later on.
Author:  Judah14 [ March 22nd, 2015, 3:29 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Real Gunbucket Scale, Fake Design
A Gunbucket design from my Republic of Corpus Christi AU:
Saint Barbara Armaments SB556:
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Weight: 2.88 kg empty, 3.45 kg loaded
Length: 842 mm stock extended, 758 mm stock retracted
Barrel: 368 mm fluted cold-hammer forged
Cartridge: 5.56 x 45 mm NATO, 300 AAC Blackout
Action: Short-stroke piston, rotating bolt
Rate of fire: 700-800 rounds per minute (cyclic)
Muzzle velocity: Depends on cartridge
Effective range: Depends on cartridge
Feed system: STANAG magazine
Sights: None provided, MIL-STD-1913 rail allows attachment of various sights
The Saint Barbara Armaments SB556 is an assault rifle patterned after the AR-15 design. It uses a gas piston action based on the action used by the Taiwanese T65/T86/T91 family of rifles. The SB556 features a continuous upper receiver that is a rigid platform that allows mounting of accessories without affecting the barrel harmonics. A MIL-STD-1913 rail is provided at the 12 o'clock position and KeyMod slots are provided at the 3, 6 and 9 o'clock positions. KeyMod allows MIL-STD-1913 rail segments to be placed where the user wants them. The lower receiver features ambidextrous controls. The SB556 is equipped with a FAB Defense GLR-16 buttstock and AG-43 pistol grip.

Versions of the SB556 include a "commando" version with a 292 mm barrel, an infantry automatic rifle with a 508 mm barrel, a personal defense weapon with a 190.5 mm barrel and also a 7.62 x 51 mm spin-off design, the SB762.
Author:  rifleman2 [ March 22nd, 2015, 1:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Real Gunbucket Scale, Fake Design
has anyone done the galil
Author:  devil505 [ March 22nd, 2015, 5:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Real Gunbucket Scale, Fake Design
Judah14 wrote:
A Gunbucket design from my Republic of Corpus Christi AU:
Saint Barbara Armaments SB556:
[ img ]
Weight: 2.88 kg empty, 3.45 kg loaded
Length: 842 mm stock extended, 758 mm stock retracted
Barrel: 368 mm fluted cold-hammer forged
Cartridge: 5.56 x 45 mm NATO
Action: Short-stroke piston, rotating bolt
Rate of fire: 700-800 rounds per minute (cyclic)
Muzzle velocity: 880 m/s
Effective range: 500 m point target
Feed system: STANAG magazine
Sights: None provided, MIL-STD-1913 rail allows attachment of various sights
The Saint Barbara Armaments SB556 is an assault rifle patterned after the AR-15 design. It uses a gas piston action based on the action used by the Taiwanese T65/T86/T91 family of rifles. The SB556 features a continuous upper receiver that is a rigid platform that allows mounting of accessories without affecting the barrel harmonics. A MIL-STD-1913 rail is provided at the 12 o'clock position and KeyMod slots are provided at the 3, 6 and 9 o'clock positions. KeyMod allows MIL-STD-1913 rail segments to be placed where the user wants them. The lower receiver features ambidextrous controls. The SB556 is equipped with a FAB Defense GLR-16 buttstock and AG-43 pistol grip.

Versions of the SB556 include a "commando" version with a 292 mm barrel, a 7.62 x 35 mm (a.k.a. 300 AAC Blackout) variant that comes with 368 mm and 292 mm barrels, an infantry automatic rifle with a 508 mm barrel and also a 7.62 x 51 mm spin-off design, the SB762, which uses a modified KAC SR25/Armalite AR-10 receiver.
I like it!
Author:  Judah14 [ March 31st, 2015, 2:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Real Gunbucket Scale, Fake Design
Edited the original SB556 post to reflect multicaliber options. Now here are the SB556 Commando, IAR and PDW variants:
SB556 Commando:
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Weight: 2.45 kg empty, 3.2 kg loaded
Length: 760 mm stock extended, 680 mm stock retracted
Barrel: 292 mm fluted cold-hammer forged
Cartridge: 5.56 x 45 mm NATO, 300 AAC Blackout
Action: Short-stroke piston, rotating bolt
Rate of fire: 700-800 rounds per minute (cyclic)
Muzzle velocity: Depends on cartridge
Effective range: Depends on cartridge
Feed system: STANAG magazine
Sights: None provided, MIL-STD-1913 rail allows attachment of various sights
SB556IAR:
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Weight: 3.2 kg empty, 3.8 kg loaded
Length: 982 mm stock extended, 898 mm stock retracted
Barrel: 508 mm fluted cold-hammer forged
Cartridge: 5.56 x 45 mm NATO
Action: Short-stroke piston, rotating bolt
Rate of fire: 700-800 rounds per minute (cyclic)
Muzzle velocity: 948 m/s
Effective range: 600 m point target
Feed system: STANAG magazine
Sights: None provided, MIL-STD-1913 rail allows attachment of various sights
SB556PDW:
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Weight: 2.05 kg empty, 2.8 kg loaded
Length: 658.5 mm stock extended, 578.5 mm stock retracted
Barrel: 190.5 mm fluted cold-hammer forged
Cartridge: 5.56 x 45 mm NATO, 300 AAC Blackout
Action: Short-stroke piston, rotating bolt
Rate of fire: 700-800 rounds per minute (cyclic)
Muzzle velocity: Depends on cartridge
Effective range: Depends on cartridge
Feed system: STANAG magazine
Sights: None provided, MIL-STD-1913 rail allows attachment of various sights
Author:  Judah14 [ April 3rd, 2015, 3:22 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Real Gunbucket Scale, Fake Design
St Barbara Armaments SB762:
The Saint Barbara Armaments SB762 is a battle rifle patterned from the AR-10 design. It uses a gas piston action based on the action used by the Taiwanese T65/T86/T91 family of rifles. The SB762 features a continuous upper receiver that allows a rigid platform that allows mounting of accessories without affecting the barrel harmonics. A MIL-STD-1913 rail is provided at the 12 o'clock position and KeyMod slots are provided at the 3, 6 and 9 o'clock positions. KeyMod allows MIL-STD-1913 rail segments to be placed where the user wants them. The lower receiver features ambidextrous controls. The SB762 is equipped with a FAB Defense GLR-16 buttstock and AG-43 pistol grip.

The sniper rifle variant of the SB762 is the SB762-SASS. It features semiautomatic-only fire and an accurised stainless steel barrel. It is equipped with a FAB Defense SSR-25 sniper buttstock and AG-43 pistol grip.
SB762 battle rifle:
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Weight: 5.50 kg empty, 6.20 kg loaded
Length: 1018.54 mm stock extended, 934.54 mm stock retracted
Barrel: 508 mm fluted cold-hammer forged
Cartridge: 7.62 x 51 mm NATO
Action: Short-stroke piston, rotating bolt
Rate of fire: 700-800 rounds per minute (cyclic)
Muzzle velocity: 783 m/s
Effective range: 800 m
Feed system: SR-25-style magazine
Sights: None provided, MIL-STD-1913 rail allows attachment of various sights
SB762 carbine:
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Weight: 5.20 kg empty, 5.90 kg loaded
Length: 878.54 mm stock extended, 794.54 mm stock retracted
Barrel: 368 mm fluted cold-hammer forged
Cartridge: 7.62 x 51 mm NATO
Action: Short-stroke piston, rotating bolt
Rate of fire: 700-800 rounds per minute (cyclic)
Muzzle velocity: 680 m/s
Effective range: 700 m
Feed system: SR-25-style magazine
Sights: None provided, MIL-STD-1913 rail allows attachment of various sights
SB762-SASS:
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Weight: 5.50 kg empty, 6.20 kg loaded
Length: 1016 mm
Barrel: 508 mm fluted cold-hammer forged
Cartridge: 7.62 x 51 mm NATO
Action: Short-stroke piston, rotating bolt
Rate of fire: semiautomatic
Muzzle velocity: 783 m/s
Effective range: 800 m
Feed system: SR-25-style magazine
Sights: Schmidt & Bender 3-12 x 50 PM-II scope, Aimpoint Micro T-1 red dot sight, MIL-STD-1913 rail allows attachment of various sights
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