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Post subject: Re: ANTSCALE and also 10px:1mPosted: November 25th, 2019, 2:56 am
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1050 ft oal
1000 ft wl
130 ft 6 in beam
two nuke plants/280,000 shp on 4 screws
goddamn steam cats
2.5 mn gallons of jet fuel
1800 tons of ordnance majority is bombs obviously
75 tons of nuclear weapons (typical: 100x 500 lbs bombs (B57-type small tactical bomb); 50x 750 lbs tactical-strategic bombs (B61-type); 25x 2500 lbs strategic bombs (B83-type megaton city killer))
top speed is Top Secret(TM) [it's about 32 and change knots in good water]

two turbines for aux power generation and they consume fuel from the aviation bunkers

combat system is replicated to a more or less equivalent extent between the islands but the rear island has way better air control facilities (full ACLS setup, a TACAN, more SATCOMs, and a proper air control central) while the fore island is better equipped for AAW and general flag control (has a flag plot, the primary CIC elevator, captain's cabin, the AAW combat radars, and primary ESM and IFF masts, and the pilot house)

there are two CICs and the backup CIC acts as damage control central in normal situations; it has fewer AAW consoles but an equal number of sonar consoles, and it lacks a Big Board view so you need to take the elevator or something to see outside i guess

shipboard armament is:
- 32x VLS cells, usually packed with 96-128 PAC-3 type missiles
- 4x Mk 29 launchers with ESSM and RAM
- 4x Phalanx guns (port/starboard fore quarters; two on bridge amidships
- 2x SeaRAM (fantail)
- 2x Mk 16 "matchbox" with no reloads carried (typical is 4x "LR-ASROC" [HAAWC wingkit on a bigger booster or a turbojet stack for ~30 km surface launch range]; 4x Harpoon Blk II+ ER)
- 6x .50 caliber machine guns
- a few hundred sailors armed with M16s, recoilless rifles, and Stinger missiles

Habitation for ~4850 crew (3050 ship + 1800 airwing [this is because the billet manning is equivalent to CVW-9 surge + some extras in the V-2 division] or so abouts) comfortably (triple bunks for OR, double bunks for jr officers and warrants, and cabins for senior officers); there are about 200 bunk spots for masters-at-arms and a few BMs who serve as the ship's landing party (one rifle company + landing/shore control team); they can be landed in 1 waves using the ship's ~2 50' motor boats and the RHIB, with another motor boat as escort and a fourth as delivery vehicle for the swimmer platoon because each carrier has a swimmer platoon of 15 men aboard for landing reconnaissance

the extra 50 accounts for the Boy rates because real navies have cabin boys who fetch coffee and Boys who help the boatswains swab the deck and paint UNREP signs on the side of the ship

about 1% of a given crew is between the age of 16-18 and considered Boys

nominal air wing is 24x VAL; 24x VF; 12x VAM; 12x ASW + Tanker; and several detachments from jamming, ELINT, helicopter, and maybe a COD squadron
carrier copter is H-3 sea king because of high fuel and long endurance plane guard + ASW w/ dipping sonar
frigate copter is H-60 because high speed for long range intercept of subs

in more forgiving air environments it sometimes swaps a VF for a VAM

for the strategic (atomic/thermonuclear) attack it can trade 24x VALs for 12x VAMs

tl;dr it's kitty hawk sized CVN and armed like it too

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Post subject: Re: ANTSCALE and also 10px:1mPosted: November 25th, 2019, 5:47 pm
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Looks great brah!

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Post subject: Re: ANTSCALE and also 10px:1mPosted: November 30th, 2019, 3:57 pm
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minus all the little things

CVE will probably be done today or tomorrow

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Post subject: Re: ANTSCALE and also 10px:1mPosted: December 1st, 2019, 12:23 pm
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this is called "DEH" now

600 ship crew
200 air wing
surge of 950 (royal marines company)

air wing:
12x H-3 ASW
3x V-22 AEW
3x P.1216 (not shown)

organized as a composite aviation squadron (VC)

operates in convoy escort groups with 1x DEH, 3-4x DEGs, and 5-6x DEKs

can also operate as independent HUK but it's less efficient at this than the DLK/DLG/DLH equipped groups

launches:
2x 40' launch
1x RHIB (port davit)

armament:
2x Mk 29 fore and aft island
3x Mk 15 (two aft quarter, one starboard fore quarter, on island)
1x Mk 41 (8-cell) (amidships on the island)
2x Mk 32 SVTT (port and starboard fore quarters)

8x2 ESSM (no reloads carried)
8x VL-ASROC in the mk 41

2x 2-cell Mk 53 canisters (aft island deckhouse)
4x Mk 36 chaff launchers (2x aft island, 2x fore island deckhouses)

Mk 23M TAS provides air surveillance (L-band)
boxes on aft deckhouse and fantail provide ILS like SPN-41 but smaller/better phased arrays
4x panels for C-band (baby MPQ-65) air surveillance radar
4x panels for X-Band (APAR expy) missile guidance radar
1x SPQ-9B provides sea search for TAS air surv
2x SLQ-32(v)4 for ESM/ECM
1x TACAN beacon for finding the thing
some number of SATCOMs for talking to people/White Cloud datalink/SBIRS datalink for real time air/ship warning
has an SQS-53 in the bow for CZs and SQS-56 is too awful to have been made by gayla
there's a SLQ-25B on the fantail too
TACTAS is omitted because it makes maneuvering hard for the carrier and it's expensive
Prairie Masker is installed for acoustic damping and deception (as is the case on basically every ship that doesnt head for the reserve fleets)

rear deckhouse may receive a crane at some point but that requires moving the aft mk 29 to the fantail like Wasp OTOH that will let it carry tanks on the deck for purpose of being a company landing ship

it has a similar island to CVS/DLH but it is smaller with a radar fit suitable for convoy air defense

sadly it's two screws so it's not much cheaper than the CVS/DLH

there is a m-day/austere version that probably lacks pretty much everything in terms of sensor fit except the basic ATC stuff and basically all the anti-missiles except chaff launchers, SLQ-32(V)6, and rubber ducks, and reduces armament to 2x Phalanx only, and propulsion to two LM2500s vice four

probably about a billion or so spondoolies

m-day version is probably 2/3rds to 3/5ths that for the same displacement and air wing size and can be produced slightly faster since it has less bottleneck in machinery

the m-day ship is now called "CVE" or maybe "DTH"

the CVS is now "DLH"

DLs are bigger than DEs of all types

there are also "DDEs" which accompany the "CVE" but they are literally just floating helicopter pads and towed arrays with a phalanx gun

and then there are "DLEs" which are literally just Spruance weapons fits (ASROC/sonars/helipad/hangar/Harpoon/Phalanx/ESSM) on a more stable hull

DDE/DLE/"DTH" sits in the reserve mothball fleet waiting for the Final War to begin and requires of convoy escort so frontline fleet units like DE/DL/CV can fight

more reasonably theyre activated as Reserve Fleet ships are brought out of mothballs and mobilized for major regional wars al a Desert Storm or Falklands or Vietnam that stretch the peacetime sealift capacity and escort ability

gallaverse is like ace combat except instead of airplanes everyone and their dog has a hunter-killer SS and stealth mine laying capability

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Post subject: Re: ANTSCALE and also 10px:1mPosted: December 13th, 2019, 12:34 am
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redrawn ddg and ddk

it's the old DEG/DEK that follows the "DEH" which is now DDH

because i realized that "DT" was dumb so the low end is DE now

DL is burke and ASW burke

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Post subject: Re: ANTSCALE and also 10px:1mPosted: December 14th, 2019, 11:09 am
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These are very impressive drawings. Keep it up!

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Post subject: Re: ANTSCALE and also 10px:1mPosted: December 20th, 2019, 10:47 am
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missing: bow anchor on the DEs, ballast/bilge pump hole thingies, Rubber Duck installations on all fantails, nothing else (afaik)

ABLs were yeeten cos no room to reload they will go on the DLG

e: i decided the radar fit on the DEs is too similar to DDs so im changing the DEK to a single SPQ-9B and a SPQ-9B and a single illuminator on the DEG

clockwise from top: DDG, DDK, DEK, DEG

small sonar is a CAPTAS sort of towed array
big sonar is SQR-20 MFTA
big missile is Penguin

little helicopter is a bigger MQ-8B with coaxial rotors that lets it carry a torpedo and some sonobuoys, or a pair of torpedoes, or a eight-pack of Hellfires (assuming a DEK ever carries Hellfires)

DLK is either going to be a Asahi clone or a Flt IIA Burke with a FCS-3 expy fit

DLG is basically a Atago with more VLS for ESSMs I suppose so sejong the great but one chopper instead of two like the KDX

then i will draw the DLH/Izumo expy

after that i should be able to draw a few different types of HUKs and convoy support groups

ill need to draw a CGN before i can draw the CVN battlegroup

then it's onto submarines

OR i return to the pain agony that is amphibious shipping

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Post subject: Re: ANTSCALE and also 10px:1mPosted: January 10th, 2020, 10:57 pm
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wip DLG

looks like a burke but it's the size of maya except it's not all empty space and useless COGLAG

it has a 100 lbs armor belt of HY80 across the waterline protecting the CIC, Damage Control Central, MR/AMRs, two main pumping rooms, and the primary computer room; upper deck is a 50 lbs plating; transverse bulkheads within the raft are 80 lbs but comprise two 40 lbs plates with a kevlar sandwich/spall liner between them

secondary computer rooms, missile magazines, and the pilot house are protected by 30 lbs steel boxes, and bulletproof alumina windows for the pilothouse because galla's ceramics industry is even stronger than its grasp of steel and turbine engines and it can produce ALON monoliths nearly a square meter in size

this should be adequate to stop air launched exocets/harpoons/otomats/NSMs from punching through the ship vitals either in airbursts or in direct impacts on the vital spaces; only big hardcore guys like Styx and maybe TASM stand a serious chance of killing the ship; of course it wont save the radars, the ship library, or chiefs' mess but who cares about useless shit like that when youre really only needing to protect the machinery spaces, steering gear, and CIC/DCC; it'll also maybe keep a magazine hit from detonating the whole bow off since it just blows the top of the box off and vents all the burning rocket fuel and exploding warheads into the sky i guess

hopefully at least, that's the idea

rest of the ship has 20-30 lbs HY80 for structure and bullet/fragment protection

this adds about 1200 +/- 100 tons of structure to the ship but it's all concentrated fairly middle and low in teh ship so it shouldn't seriously affect stability too much given it's approximately Maya sized the displacement will probably be about similar to Maya or the original Flt III burke with the big hull plug; it shouldnt be too bad

powerplant is COGAG with two LM6000s for main propulsion and a pair of diesel generators

there are four illuminators vice three on burke which i havent drawn

it serves as an anti-aircraft primary escort for DDH/DLH HUKs and CAV armored carrier groups, and as a secondary AAW escort for CVNs

the air combat system uses ERINTs as the primary long range AAM and ESSM for short range, for a total of 64 and 32 volleys in the image; there's a medium range SAM using high maneuver stage like the ERINT also, also with 32 volleys

underwater combat system uses the single LAMPS frigate helicopter (H-60), a Sea Lance expy with a range of 100 nmi, amidships torpedo tubes, and ASROC

surface combat system has 25mm gatling guns, a 6.1"/58 long range naval rifle firing guided shells similar to Copperhead II, a 150 nmi range ASCM similar to Klub, and typical Harpoon/TASM

only 16 cells in the aft section are 8 meters "super" deep cells, so they are usually loaded with the big missile; the rest are strike length

mulling whether or not the fantail will contain ABLs or a boat ramp for deploying sacrificial towed decoy sleds that follow in the wake

also debating whether or not the DLK should have similar amounts of protection

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