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raafif
Post subject: Re: FD scale Never Built DesignsPosted: November 17th, 2022, 12:58 am
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is this really an aircraft or not ?? :D

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Post subject: Re: FD scale Never Built DesignsPosted: November 19th, 2022, 11:45 am
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A crazy idea but yes I think it classifies as an 'aircraft' (or at least an auto-rotating brick!).

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Post subject: Re: FD scale Never Built DesignsPosted: November 22nd, 2022, 11:47 pm
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Post subject: Re: FD scale Never Built DesignsPosted: December 2nd, 2022, 12:52 am
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Breda developments of Z.1018 Leone

In late 1942 the designer of the Z.1018, Zappata, moved to Breda to try and get the project back on track.

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Breda had been underutilised with the failure of the Ba.88 Lince, but had considerable experience of all-metal aircraft construction, and so their facilities in Milan were well placed to take up production of the Z.1018 Leone and contracts were awarded for 400 aircraft. As Breda set up an assembly line for the aircraft, Zappata returned to the drawing boards and resumed work on development models of the Leone.
Four models were proposed, BZ. (Breda Zappata) 301 high altitude bomber, BZ.302 high altitude fighter, BZ.303 night fighter, torpoedo bomber, and BZ.304 tank destroyer. In September 1943 approval was given to construct a prototype BZ.301 as the Leone III and three prototypes of the BZ.303 as the Leone II.

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The BZ.301 was minimally changed from the Z.1018, but reverted to the original twin-tail layout and featured an extended inner wing section. The BZ.303 was a significant rework, looking more like the original Z.1018 prototype. One of the BZ.303's was to be built with DB604 engines as the BZ.303bis.
However all too little too late. Allied bombers destroyed the Breda facility on 30 April 1944 before any aircraft were completed.


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Post subject: Re: FD scale Never Built DesignsPosted: December 16th, 2022, 12:48 am
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Macchi C.94 military proposal

Macchi proposed a reconnaisance bomber version of the C.94 airliner for the Regia Aeronautica.

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After the single engined C.77 had lost out to the CANT Z.501, Macchi proposed a similar militarisation to the C.94 airliner. No military orders were forthcoming, but work on the design progressed to become the C.99 which got as far as a single prototype in 1937.


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Post subject: Re: FD scale Never Built DesignsPosted: December 17th, 2022, 8:49 am
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Nice additions.


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Post subject: Re: FD scale Never Built DesignsPosted: December 18th, 2022, 10:11 pm
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Various, Boeing 2707 Operators

A few never-were schemes for the Boeing 2707. All operators here had orders for or plans to order the type.

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Post subject: Re: FD scale Never Built DesignsPosted: December 20th, 2022, 1:04 am
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Reggiane seaplanes

Reggiane had been created as a Caproni subsidiary to build bombers during WWI, but undertook no further aviation activities until 1936. in 1936 Reggiane started working on developing Caproni designs in the Ca.400-series, with the Ca.405 Procellaria record aircraft and the P.32bis bomber being the only machines reaching flying status.

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The largest initial design was the Ca.403 four-engined trans-Atlantic passenger flying boat.In typical Italian-style the aircraft was modelled in both single and twin-tailed versions. Windtunnel testing was completed, but the programme was dropped in 1939.

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Another commercial seaplane started design life as the Ca.406, before maturing as the Ca.415. The Ca.415 would have been a wooden amphibian flying boat, able to carry 19 passengers. As the Ca.406 windtunnel models had been constructed, and as the Ca.415 all technical drawings and stress calculations had been completed before this programme was also halted due to wartime conditions.


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Post subject: Re: FD scale Never Built DesignsPosted: December 20th, 2022, 7:19 am
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Shenyang Aircraft Corporation J-8II Project 8-2 a.k.a. Peace Pearl Program

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Project 8-2, known to the West as Peace Pearl Program, aims to upgrade the J-8II, then in the less-than-service-ready Block 1 iteration, into a form that is capable of intercepting Soviet supersonic strategic bombers under all weather conditions as a more-affordable alternative to buying the F-16A/B from the US. Grumman was selected to integrate the AN/APG-66(V) radar, avionics, computerized fire control system, and Martin-Baker election seat into two airframes sent to the US as pattern aircraft, with a view of incorporating AIM-7M capability and possibly re-engining with the F404 turbofan in the future. The modified aircraft can be identified by their slightly-enlarged dorsal spines.

Project 8-2 was paused due to Western sanctions in the aftermath of the 1989 June Fourth Incident, by which point only new electronics were known to have been installed and tested on the ground, and later cancelled as the PLAAF was in the process of introducing the Su-27 into service. The two airframes were then returned to the PRC. The J-8II remained an issue of pride for the PRC and SAC, however, and efforts to upgrade the aircraft continued, at first into the more-reliable Block 2 and eventually leading to the J-8F.

EDIT: Sorry for being so clumsy with this one. This should be the last revision.


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Post subject: Re: FD scale Never Built DesignsPosted: December 22nd, 2022, 12:41 am
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General Dynamics F-16/79 for the ROCAF

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Based on General Dynamics' promotional materials.

Artistic licence was taken to use, given the timeframe of the FX program, the contemporary early-1980s Block 15 standard as the basis. Drag chute compartment was apparently added to new-build aircraft for customers that specified it since late 1970s as well and is therefore included à la real-life ROCAF F-16s. It also happened to be around the time when the AIM-7F got superseded by the AIM-7M in production and might subsequently have become deemed less sensitive for export (it was for the Sparrow capability that the ROCAF previously tried to buy the F-4 and rejected the counterproposal involving the Kfir C.2). The roundels used in the promotional illustration also seem too large to fit into the indicated positions on an actual F-16 although I otherwise try to stay as close to the markings in the illustration as I can even if they look kinda weird to me.

The F-16/79 was promoted to the ROCAF as enthusiastically as General Dynamics was allowed to be, especially since the ROC would become the last remaining plausible export customer of the FX entries after Ronald Reagan took his seat in the White House. While the sale did not materialize, GD did go on to train and advise the design team behind the airframe section of the ROC's Indigenous Defense Fighter project.


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