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Hood
Post subject: Re: FD scale Never Built DesignsPosted: May 4th, 2017, 8:04 am
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Nice work. The Soviets certainly gave free reign for their designers to come up with innovative, if somewhat odd, designs. Some made it to the metal bashing stage if they had the political support, if not they stayed firmly on paper.

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Post subject: Re: FD scale Never Built DesignsPosted: May 4th, 2017, 8:24 am
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I have so many questions, but the primary one is why.
Why make a VTOL float plane.

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Post subject: Re: FD scale Never Built DesignsPosted: May 4th, 2017, 10:40 am
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Understanding that for a significant amount of time the water in the north is too rough for a small floatplane to operate, the designers planned for an aircraft which could use a helipad on those occasions. But then if you're going to be able to use a helipad sometimes, why bother with the floatplane aspect at all? Maybe it all made sense in the late 50's/early 60's?
The Soviets had a few similar designs from Beriev/Bartini/Korchagin/Berlin including the VVA-14 already here on shipbucket. These designs seem to have paved the way for the ekranoplanes.


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Post subject: Re: FD scale Never Built DesignsPosted: May 4th, 2017, 9:02 pm
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A link for all not familiar with this aircraft:

http://www.testpilot.ru/russia/bartini/ ... vp70_e.htm

Nice to see more of Soviet Never Where aircraft, some where very innovative, other many years ahead of their time.


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Post subject: Re: FD scale Never Built DesignsPosted: May 5th, 2017, 7:20 pm
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Nice work.

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Post subject: Re: FD scale Never Built DesignsPosted: May 10th, 2017, 12:32 pm
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The single-seat Intruder, Grumman G-128-12.

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Grumman constructed a full size forward fuselage mockup, but the design did not progress further.
A minimal redraw of Darth Panda's A-6, thanks DP.


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Post subject: Re: FD scale Never Built DesignsPosted: May 13th, 2017, 8:54 am
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Interesting, never heard of this one before.

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Post subject: Re: FD scale Never Built DesignsPosted: May 14th, 2017, 1:02 am
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Messerschmitt P.1101:
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And the P.1101 V1 prototype, seized by Allied forces during wind tunnel testing:
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Post subject: Re: FD scale Never Built DesignsPosted: May 14th, 2017, 8:44 am
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Lockheed CL-130 HOW, Hercules-On-Water amphibian

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In 1968 Lockheed set to work modifying the C130 to become an amphibious flying boat. The modification would involve a redesigned nose, the addition of a boat hull directly to the standard C130 hull, changing the engine mountings to Electra-style over wing cowlings, and addition of a hydro-ski to the lower keel to allow operation onto sea-state 7 (!) conditions in a similar manner to a hydrofoil.
A 1/16th scale flying model was commissioned to test the concept. The design eventually progressed to increasing the vertical tail surfaces and dorsal fin and addition of horsal fins to increase extreme low-speed handling - both features carried forward onto Hercules STOL projects.
Unfortunately insufficient military or civil interest led to the promising project being abandoned.


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Post subject: Re: FD scale Never Built DesignsPosted: May 14th, 2017, 9:05 am
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Interesting concept.


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