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Author:  Hood [ November 13th, 2014, 8:28 pm ]
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Nice work.
Author:  odysseus1980 [ November 29th, 2014, 12:43 pm ]
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Ending with Army Aviation of 1920's, the Gloster Nighthawk:

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Author:  eswube [ November 29th, 2014, 7:27 pm ]
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Nice to see new addition. :)
Author:  odysseus1980 [ November 29th, 2014, 7:53 pm ]
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Continuing with aircraft of Naval Air Service, until December 1929, when Royal Hellenic Air Force was formated.

The Avro 504N/O was one of the aircraft assemblied (or manufactured, according to hellenic sources) in State Hellenic Aircraft Factory (SHAF) from 1925. Latter established in Faliro under assistance from Blackburn in that year. I did not find numbers about how many 504 were built/assemblied, but propably total number was around 20-30. Some had floats instead of wheels.

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Author:  odysseus1980 [ January 13th, 2015, 10:49 am ]
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Real History of Hellenic State Aircraft factory here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_Airc ... 8Greece%29

(Text from Wikipedia)

The Blackburn T.3 Velos was a 1920s British two-seat coastal defence seaplane built by Blackburn Aeroplane & Motor Company Limited, Brough Aerodrome and the Hellenic State Aircraft Factory, based on the Blackburn Dart airframe, modified into a two-seater to meet a Hellenic Navy requirement for a coastal defence seaplane. The aircraft became the T.3 Velos, a twin-float seaplane. The Velos differed from the standard Dart T.2 in having a two-seat cockpit with a rear-mounted .303 in (7.7 mm) Lewis Gun, an increased weapons load with four 230 lb (104 kg) bombs mounted under the wings and provisions to fly as either a seaplane with floats or with a conventional undercarriage.

In 1925, a small batch of four aircraft were built at Brough Aerodrome for the Hellenic Navy. Later in the same year, the aircraft was chosen as the first licence-built aircraft in Hellas in a factory built by Blackburn and operated under a five-year contract. The Aircraft Factory, later renamed the State Aircraft Factory or Hellenic National Aircraft Factory, operated in Palaion Faliro to produce 12 Hellenic-built T.3A Velos aircraft with a raised rear cockpit to give an improved field of fire for the observer and a larger radiator. The first of the production order flew in March 1926.

Blackburn produced two additional T.3 models as the T.3A Velos, initially for trials of the company's new metal floats and later, one example embarked on a demonstration and sales tour of South America in 1927. Despite the sales tour, the T.3A garnered no orders. Both T.3As were converted to seaplane trainers and joined four other production aircraft built for the Blackburn Reserve School (North Sea Aerial and General Transport Co. Ltd) to replace the company's Dart seaplane trainers in providing advanced training. After 1929, all of the T.3As were converted back into landplanes and continued in service until replacement by Ripons and Baffins in 1933.

The Blackburn T.3 Velos not only fulfilled an operational role as a coastal defence/torpedo bomber in the Naval Air Component Squadrons in Hellas, but also helped establish an indigenous aviation industry. The aircraft began operations in 1926 with the Hellenic Navy deployed at Tatoi Aerodrome and Phaleron Bay, Athens. During operations, the T.3s delivered steady if not spectacular service. The Velos remained in squadron use until 1934 with all examples retired by 1936.

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Author:  Hood [ January 13th, 2015, 1:23 pm ]
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A very nice addition.
Author:  eswube [ January 13th, 2015, 7:10 pm ]
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Great to see this thread going. :)
Author:  odysseus1980 [ January 18th, 2015, 3:06 pm ]
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The Armstrong Whitworth Atlas was designed by a team led by John Lloyd, chief designer of Armstrong Whitworth Aircraft, as a replacement for the DH.9A and Bristol Fighter as an army co-operation aircraft for the RAF, in parallel with the related aircraft, the Ajax and Aries. The Atlas was intended to meet the requirements of Specification 20/25.

The prototype Atlas (G-EBLK) was built as a private venture, first flying on 10 May 1925.[1] It was delivered to the Aeroplane and Armament Experimental Establishment (A & AEE), Martlesham Heath, where it was evaluated against the Bristol Boarhound, de Havilland Hyena, Vickers Vespa, and Short Chamois. It proved superior in performance and handling and was recommended for production.

While the performance was generally good, the prototype could not be sideslipped steeply, and this resulted in a redesign where sweptback metal wings, with differing wing section, were fitted. When tested again, the Atlas was found to have lost its good handling, having dangerous stall characteristics. The Atlas had already been ordered for service, however, and suffered a number of accidents during takeoff and landing in the first few months of operation until modified with automatic slats and increased sweepback. This cured the poor handling.[2]

The production Atlas had a steel tube fuselage with fabric covering with single-bay swept metal wings. It could be fitted with a hook under the fuselage to pick up messages and could carry a 460 lb (210 kg) bombload under the wings.

Atlas in Hellenic Naval Aviation

In 1928 two Atlas were ordered for the Hellenic Naval Aviation, which arrived in Hellas in July 1929. At the same time, built under license, ten additional aircraft in State Aircraft Factory. The Hellenic built Atlas differed from the corresponding British, as they had wooden structure wings, did not had slats and the Jaguar engines were modified with placing gear reduction and larger propellers.

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Author:  odysseus1980 [ January 18th, 2015, 4:06 pm ]
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Six Bristol F.2B trainers served also with Naval Aviation in 1920's. Disappear after early 1930's.

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Author:  KIKE92 [ January 21st, 2015, 1:58 pm ]
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Really nice job :)
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