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reytuerto
Post subject: Re: FD scale vehicles 10Posted: March 20th, 2018, 1:31 am
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Hi, Odysseus, thanks for your input.
No, only the Lynx and Sagaie variants. Unfortuantelly I was unable to find a good picture of the very interesting Serval 60/20 version. Maybe, I will do the Saviem VBC with the TS-90 turret. Cheers.


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odysseus1980
Post subject: Re: FD scale vehicles 10Posted: March 20th, 2018, 3:47 am
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Did you search in AML variants; The Serval 60-20 turret was appeared in that first.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panhard_AML

https://aw.my.com/en/forum/showthread.p ... anhard-AML


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madmike
Post subject: Re: FD scale vehicles 10Posted: March 20th, 2018, 5:42 am
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reytuerto wrote: *
Hi, Odysseus, thanks for your input.
No, only the Lynx and Sagaie variants. Unfortuantelly I was unable to find a good picture of the very interesting Serval 60/20 version. Maybe, I will do the Saviem VBC with the TS-90 turret. Cheers.
ok Reytuerto... now you have no excuses! :D

have a good work.

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odysseus1980
Post subject: Re: FD scale vehicles 10Posted: March 20th, 2018, 6:51 am
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Among all these above I see the EMC-81 variant for first time. Did that turret was to have a breech loaded mortar?

P.S I had seen the Serval 60-20 turret in AML variants way back.


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madmike
Post subject: Re: FD scale vehicles 10Posted: March 20th, 2018, 4:48 pm
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odysseus1980 wrote: *
Among all these above I see the EMC-81 variant for first time. Did that turret was to have a breech loaded mortar?

P.S I had seen the Serval 60-20 turret in AML variants way back.
Yes, the Hotchkiss Brandt HB-81, that could be breech-loading or muzzle-loading, both ways.

The turret is a 360° one, and the mortar have a range of 7000 metres. It could also fire a direct-fire antitank round, obviously a shaped-charge one, with a range of 800 metres.

An interesting weapon, perhaps too 'small' for a useful use on battleground.


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odysseus1980
Post subject: Re: FD scale vehicles 10Posted: March 20th, 2018, 5:13 pm
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It would be as useful as any 81mm mortar in battleground.


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madmike
Post subject: Re: FD scale vehicles 10Posted: March 20th, 2018, 5:41 pm
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yes...and no.
is an expensive and complex mounted weapon, and in the direct fire role not enough powerful. In fact, the west never put in use a similar weapon, and the russian goes directly on 120mm weapons.

interestly, indeed.


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odysseus1980
Post subject: Re: FD scale vehicles 10Posted: March 20th, 2018, 6:21 pm
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Ok, but in that era (early 1980's) that weapon was marketed. Perhaps the complex nature of EMX-81 was the reason none bit.

The EMC-81 turret was also marketed on AMX-10P.

Please check your pm file.


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Post subject: Re: FD scale vehicles 10Posted: March 20th, 2018, 8:07 pm
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Great work!


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reytuerto
Post subject: Re: FD scale vehicles 10Posted: March 20th, 2018, 11:47 pm
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Thanks, Mike! a lot of future drawings (damm, I will have work)!
Hi, Odysseus. Yes, I only had seen the Serval turret over the AML 4x4 vehicle. I think that a 81 is useful, but a turreted one is somewhat expensive. As a FSV I would prefer something heavier, and in the plain mortar role, something cheaper... of course, giving my point of view of armchair general with an advantage of 35 years!
Thanks Eswube & guys for your input!


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