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Author:  Charguizard [ May 12th, 2021, 11:23 pm ]
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@eswube, thanks a lot for sharing this drawing, I am very impressed and think its a very handsome monster. Shame you didn't want to enter the challenge as this is easily 1st place material with a nice scheme and markings. I did learn from analyzing it and fixed a couple of details on my entry accordingly :)

@Albert, good thing you decided to post the whole thing here. I left my comments on the challenge thread, they should apply to all of your versions and I hope you're encouraged by them.

@Sgt-turbo, glad you finally decided to post these here, I had been seeing them in the discord for a while, hope you decide to do some loaded up with stuff in time. The desert one is my fave.
Author:  Sgt-Turbo [ May 13th, 2021, 6:36 am ]
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Charguizard wrote: *May 12th, 2021, 11:23 pm
@eswube, thanks a lot for sharing this drawing, I am very impressed and think its a very handsome monster. Shame you didn't want to enter the challenge as this is easily 1st place material with a nice scheme and markings. I did learn from analyzing it and fixed a couple of details on my entry accordingly :)

@Albert, good thing you decided to post the whole thing here. I left my comments on the challenge thread, they should apply to all of your versions and I hope you're encouraged by them.

@Sgt-turbo, glad you finally decided to post these here, I had been seeing them in the discord for a while, hope you decide to do some loaded up with stuff in time. The desert one is my fave.
Thanks! Got a few more in the pipeline.

Great job to everyone on the bomber challenge btw!
Author:  eswube [ May 16th, 2021, 12:04 pm ]
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Charguizard wrote: *May 12th, 2021, 11:23 pm
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Thank You for the kind words. Well, in order for it to be a "1st place material" with features You mentioned I would need to have more time to work on it - and as You know, the participation in Challenges are hardly high on my list of priorities. I (re-)started working only after I had to pause working on something else, which was only some 3 or 4 days before I posted it (and I posted it 3 days before deadline) and it wasn't a lot of time to have it fixed-up to really satisfying standard. ;)
(and judging from some late entries, I'd have to work on it REALLY hard)

And on a side note - in relation to feedback comments You've made in the Bomber Challenge - about marking the engine vs. wing or the wing (or horizontal stabilizer) vs. fuselage with black line or not. (lines marked in red and blue on the sample below)

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It's an interesting issue, and I believe that Your approach results from interpretation of the SB rules as applied to SB-scale. Problem is, that rules of FD-scale are actually not quite so precisely defined: they are definitely meant to follow the general idea and spirit of the basic SB ones, but practically they diverge in some respects, and this particular issue is one of the most notable ones. In short: the rule that black ought to be used only for external contour, breaks in surfaces' continuity and 90-deg. angles in fact do not literally apply to FD, not least because it could be extremely hard to establish wether something is a 90-deg. angle on most aircraft. So it's down to "established practice" - in the early days of FD scale indeed a relatively significant section of works had these lines not marked in black (just by a very dark shade), but by now, I think the only 'major' (in terms of output) FD contributor that keeps doing it this way is Sheepster, while majority tend to mark the 'engine line' practically always in black, the 'horizontal stabilizer line' almost always in black and the 'wing line' mostly in black (with some caveats, depending on the specific shape of that area - on low-wing airplanes not necessarily with black indeed). I believe that Darth Panda tended mark all these in black from the very beginning, and so did WhyMe (and they both largely defined the FD scale as we know it now thanks to their cutting-edge quality of works from the earliest time - btw. my style is largely derived from WhyMe's whom works I closely looked at when first started doing FD over 8 years ago) - and I have to admit that when commenting on drawings I tend to encourage Artists to also mark these elements in black.

Rainmaker wrote: *May 9th, 2021, 6:14 pm
Perhaps a good way to encourage discussion about the feasibility of entries would be to separate the challenge into two threads, a "development/WIP" thread where contestants can post their WIPs and generate discussion about their designs before finalizing them, and a "final post" thread where contestants could post their completed designs to be judged. That way discussion could occur as the design is evolving, rather than just leaving all the comments and critiques for the end once the design has been judged.
That's an ineresting idea, though I'm not sure if it would be practical to have a separate discussion thread and 'definitive entries' thread for each Challenge. Perhaps more useful would be a common 'discussion thread' for all challenges. Another thing is that I have a feeling that quite a number of (especially newer) members consider it sufficient to show their WiP's on Discord and satisfy themselves only with the advice they will get from the people who happen to be online at that particular moment.

Sgt-Turbo wrote: *May 13th, 2021, 6:36 am
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Not bad for a start, though You could try to work more on the detailing and avoiding of the double black lines. Also, I think it would benefit from 'traditional' 3-pixel-thick cockpit frame (contour-color-contour).
On a side-note, compared to A-5 (after which it was apparently modeled and even were to 'take parts of' in the backstory) it looks rather diminutive for some reason ( http://shipbucket.com/vehicles/8058 )
Author:  acelanceloet [ May 16th, 2021, 1:19 pm ]
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eswube, one minor thing: you do realise discord chats are not just visible to who happends to be online at the time, but keeps an achive in which you can scroll years back? True, if people are posting a lot your work might get snowed under, something which won't happen in the forum that easily, but people can comment on what has been in the past on discord if they come across it. Being online at the same time does make it easier to converse about something though.
Author:  Sgt-Turbo [ June 10th, 2021, 10:42 pm ]
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eswube wrote: *May 16th, 2021, 12:04 pm
Not bad for a start, though You could try to work more on the detailing and avoiding of the double black lines. Also, I think it would benefit from 'traditional' 3-pixel-thick cockpit frame (contour-color-contour).
On a side-note, compared to A-5 (after which it was apparently modeled and even were to 'take parts of' in the backstory) it looks rather diminutive for some reason ( http://shipbucket.com/vehicles/8058 )
Thanks. There's definitely quite a bit of room for improvement, so I will keep those in mind. I had originally envisioned it being somewhere between the A-5 and A-6 in terms of size, but I managed to screw up my math a bit so it actually ended up being slightly longer than I wanted.
Author:  MattewEx [ June 27th, 2021, 9:06 pm ]
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Cursed
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Author:  llamaman2 [ July 3rd, 2021, 4:05 pm ]
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♫Pat feels he's a very happy man♫

Yeah, I have way too much time on my hands...

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Author:  Hood [ July 4th, 2021, 8:52 am ]
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llamaman2 wrote: *July 3rd, 2021, 4:05 pm
♫Pat feels he's a very happy man♫

Yeah, I have way too much time on my hands...
Haha, yeah I always thought the rebooted series giving him an autogyro was a bit stupid - what he really needed was this!
Author:  Ariel_SR-71 [ July 16th, 2021, 12:46 pm ]
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B-21 Raider
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Author:  The_Sprinklez [ October 6th, 2021, 10:51 pm ]
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United States of America (AU), F-15E Strike Eagle (Southeast Asia Camouflage)
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United States of America (AU), Various Fictional Turbine Conversions (C177, C182, P-51)
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