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dy031101
Post subject: SPY-1 discussionPosted: March 22nd, 2017, 6:50 am
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Question about the Aegis La Fayette:

Is the radar SPY-1F? Or something bigger?

Thanks in advance.


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Post subject: Re: NS100 La FayettePosted: March 22nd, 2017, 9:03 am
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dy031101 wrote: *
Question about the Aegis La Fayette:

Is the radar SPY-1F? Or something bigger?

Thanks in advance.
It is written in the text bellow the drawing.

Thales 100... Something something


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Post subject: Re: NS100 La FayettePosted: March 22nd, 2017, 11:53 pm
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heuhen wrote: *
It is written in the text bellow the drawing.

Thales 100... Something something
Yes, I figured that pairing a SPY-1D/E with the ESSM would have been very silly, too, but I want to be sure.


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Post subject: Re: NS100 La FayettePosted: March 23rd, 2017, 1:09 am
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Nice set of warships, Superboy! Very real and feasible designs, and well drawn.


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Post subject: Re: NS100 La FayettePosted: March 23rd, 2017, 2:16 am
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AN/SPY-1 radars are far too heavy to be mounted that high above the keel. Aside from that, it's an excellent Americanized Lafayette.


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Post subject: Re: NS100 La FayettePosted: March 23rd, 2017, 9:35 am
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Except SPY-1K would quite feasibly fit and work on a vessel this size.

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Post subject: Re: NS100 La FayettePosted: March 23rd, 2017, 10:17 am
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And is underpowered and has not enough T/Rs to fully exploit the missiles suite embarked. ESSM needs at least AN/SPY 1D. And is still too heavy.

http://www.mdc.idv.tw/mdc/navy/usanavy/E-Radar-SPY1.htm

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ ... -spy-1.htm
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AN/SPY-1K - Smallest version of the radar offered, intended to fit corvette-sized vessels. None currently in service. The requirement of the Israeli navy is to mount a fixed four-face phased-array radar, which can be either indigenous EL/M-2248 MF-STAR or American SPY-1K, and Mk41 VLS on their new surface combatants. Ingalls once proposed a 4,200-ton design with SPY-1K and a 16-cell Mk41 VLS buried in the superstructure while AFCON, a consortium of Bath Iron Works, IZAR, and Lockheed Martin, marketed a 2,600-ton corvette with SPY-1K and a 4-cell Mk41 VLS installed in the forward hull.
That puts it out of the Lafayette's reach as drawn.


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Post subject: Re: NS100 La FayettePosted: March 23rd, 2017, 10:28 am
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Fridtjof Nansen class is probably as small a frigat can be and carry ESSM and SPY-1


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Post subject: Re: NS100 La FayettePosted: March 23rd, 2017, 10:49 am
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I never said it would or indeed fully exploit the capabilities of ESSM, nor was it implied, however it still doesn't disprove what I said, that such a vessel was worked out in detail and is of comparable size and layout to those represented in the thread.

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Post subject: Re: NS100 La FayettePosted: March 23rd, 2017, 11:35 am
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If it had been worked out, then it was simple to prove it. It would have been built. It was not. One might ask why the proposal was rejected out of hand by all possible customers?

Hence advertising, one might suggest, in this case, is not hull metal proof.

Furthermore, why is it, that the Americans of all possible customers, have not fitted the AN/SPY 1K to the Littoral Combat Ship in an anti-air package? There would be a proof for one. For if a program ever needed a saving throw like AEGIS, then it would be the LCS; which is a colossal bolo of a program.


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