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Miklania
Post subject: Re: Anti-Submarine Task Force Flagship ChallengePosted: November 15th, 2021, 7:32 am
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St. Bonaventure Class Escort Carrier (RE)

Displacement (Full): 29,200 tons
LOA: 717 feet
LWL: 693.5 feet
Beam (WL/Total): 109/181.5 feet
Draft: 25.5 feet
Speed: 28 knots

Armament:
3x CIWS
8x Harpoon
2x ASRAD-R
2x SVTT
+ Machine guns and small arms

Sensors:
S-band 3D air search radar
X-band 2D air search radar
EW Suite
Hull Sonar
Towed Array
Landing Assistance Set

Air Wing:
16x SH-4 Sea Knight
6x VF-88 Auk

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Rodondo
Post subject: Re: Anti-Submarine Task Force Flagship ChallengePosted: November 15th, 2021, 9:28 am
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In the late 50's the VCN wasin the porcess of a ssembling the most formibble navy in the southern Hemipshere, boasting cruiser and carrier task groups and the need to porect these from submerged threats as well as the trade routes that the antipodean colonies were reliant upon. The VCN was in the process of converting its wartime destroyers along the lines of the Type 16 ships in the RN. However the need to coordinate and ship new technologies to combat the emerging threat of Soviet SSN's was pressing. Fortunately at the time the VCN was in a spot of bother and luck simultaneously. The two Long Darings had beeen built and just completed and the outgoing government had ordered a third unit however with the the manpower of the VCN and the new budget unable to meet the constraints. The RN was pushing howver for the unit to be finished to help bolster strength in the Pacific. Faced with this dilemma, they combined the two need and poresented this design to the VCN and treasurary at an estimated increase of cost A£1.2 Million but to offset this, one wartime unit ould be placed in reserve during construction and upon completeion, sold, along side two other early wartime units. The option however was not taken up, the VCN was aware of increase during the first two long darings all to well. Instead, they would replace three of the earliest ASW conversions with three Type81M ships in the early sixties.

ASW Long Daring
Type Destroyer
Displacement Standard: 3,900 tons, Full load: 4,850 tons
Length 477 ft (145.4m)
Beam 48.5 ft (14.8 m)
Draught 15.5 ft (4.7 m)
Speed 32.5 knots (56 km/h; 35 mph)
Range 6,200 nautical miles
Complement 322
Armament
4 × QF 4.5 inch /45 (113 mm) Mark V guns in 3 twin mountings UD Mark VI
4 × 40 mm /60 Bofors A/A in 2 twin mounts Mk.V
4 x Bidder Mark 20 Torpedo Tubes, 16 reloads
2 × Limbo A/S mortar 15 salvos each
1 x Ikara Launcher ASW missiles, 24 reloads

Aviation
2 x Saro P531 (most likely changed to Wasp;s if had of proceeded)

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wb21
Post subject: Re: Anti-Submarine Task Force Flagship ChallengePosted: November 15th, 2021, 11:23 am
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Vinond-class helicopter carrier/light aircraft carrier

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The Vinond class was among the prime examples of the great strides taken in the modernization efforts of the Royal Illedaric Navy in the post-Communist period, apart from the extensive refit of its two Varda-class aircraft carriers conducted in the early 2000s (NB: this rendition and some lore elements have long been obsoleted). This type was the product of a RIlN program for a through-deck, aviation-oriented cruiser that could be built in reasonable quantity to replace its Cold War-vintage cruisers—and in the long term, the Varda-class carriers. It was manufactured by the private Berrgra & Louthiv shipbuilding company, which was the winner of the highly competitive program in 2005, over the country's state shipbuilder and their 185-meter, 11,500-ton entry.

These vessels were designed to have greater versatility and economical operations over their intended predecessors, capable of the roles of flotilla or task force leader, over-the-horizon air defense, surface attack, and anti-submarine warfare, force projection, convoy escort, airborne special operations, amphibious air support, anti-piracy, and humanitarian aid and disaster assistance. While primarily designed with rotary-wing aviation in mind, they are fully capable from the outset of hosting and deploying the RIlN's V/STOL combat aircraft, namely the F.43 Skyblade multi-role fighter (inspired by the Hawker/BAe P.1214, with forward-swept wings), and the older IAP-14G "Fable-D" fighter and IAP-15V "Fable-F" strike aircraft (both inspired by the Convair 201, with delta wings).

Its weapons and electronics systems also signified the strides taken to further move forward from the RIlN's legacy, Communist-era systems, as a key power in the Collective Security Initiative Force, the military wing of the Organization for Global Protection (which served to stave off major political and military influence of terrestrial powers upon Terragrandia following Earth's discovery of the Terragrandia portals in the late 1940s and the subsequent spillover of the Cold War on the latter planet).

The quasi-integrated mast contained medium-range radar sets for air and surface search and target acquisition as well as ECM and ESM antennas, topped by a Series 184 long-range surface-search radar. The main mast located between the two smokestacks housed the NRS-24 long-range air search and surveillance radar, and a mast full of additional communications and ECM/ECCM sensors. The SERA-H sonar suite was used, comprised of the A and B components in the bow, and the C component in the stern as a variable-depth system.

Three 8-cell VLS blocks housed the Vinonds' missile armament, which can use the Pattern 8 medium-range and Type 48 short-range missiles, and the Pattern 5D anti-submarine rockets; a common loadout would be 12 Pattern 8, 16 Type 48, and 8 Pattern 5 missiles, or 32 Type 48 and 8 Pattern 5 missiles. Short-range air defense was provided by 2 37 mm Frostblade CIWS (with a 550-round per minute cyclic rate of fire per barrel) and a 20-cell pack for Type 48 missiles. For close-in defense against small surface craft, 4 28 mm Type 38 remote-controlled gun mounts (with backup manual operation) were placed in sponsons. A triple 350 mm torpedo tube was placed on either side, capable of firing counter-torpedo rounds.

Its standard ASW aviation component consisted of 4 IAP-19K and 8 H.31U ASW helicopters, plus 2 or 3 H.31R SAR helicopters, although in normal, peacetime conditions only half of the combat choppers is usually deployed. Older types such as the Ka-27 Helix were known to operate on the ships in the early 2010s prior to such units' retirement during that decade. Between 4 and 8 jump jets could be carried in loadouts requiring such assets.

Named after Illedar's provinces, two units were initially constructed, Vinond and Grag Vareg. The class was initially considered as cruisers, before being reclassified as aircraft carriers (with the pennant numbers being changed accordingly). They were a workhorse in patrolling the nation's waters, as well as being deployed in major HADR operations in Terragrandia and Earth, and in CSIF-mandated security and military operations.

The second series, named Avaldaro and Tharmat (the batch was referred to unofficially as the Avaldaro [sub]class) were put into service in 2016 and 2018, respectively. Batch II's notable features included a 10 meter-long hull extension, a ski-ramp, an additional Type 48 missile launcher on the port side amidship, precision-guided missile launchers on all Type 38 RCWS mountings, anti-torpedo countermeasures, and newer sensors. As the debate to replace the Vardas began, in what pundits have described as the most convoluted episode in Illedar's defense legislation, the decision was made to replace the older carriers with the 2 Vinond Batch IIs and a newer sole carrier type, Karsha III; the latter, fraught with delays, is set to enter service in 2023.

Vessels:

Batch I

• Vinond (C-084, redesignated A-103 in 2010) – laid down 2006/02, launched 2007/11, commissioned 2009/04, active 2021
• Grag Vareg (A-104) – laid down 2007/07, launched 2009/01, commissioned 2010/06, active 2021

Batch II

• Avaldaro (A-105) – laid down 2013/04, launched 2014/09, commissioned 2016/10, active 2021
• Tharmat (A-106) – laid down 2014/12, launched 2016/08, commissioned 2018/07, active 2021

Specifications (Batch I):

Dimensions

Length: 190.7 m overall
Beam: 30 m main deck, 37 m overall
Draft: 7.62 m standard
Displacement: 12,600 tons standard, 19,000 tons maximum


Propulsion

Configuration: combined gas and gas
Powerplant: 2× 20,000 kW gas turbines and 2× 30,000 kW gas turbines
Shafts: 2× 6-bladed variable-pitch screws, 1× retractable bow thruster


Performance

Top speed: 28 kts
Range: 9,000 nmi at 15 kts
Endurance: 42 days


Complement: 425 (varies with air wing)


Armament

• 2×2 37 mm Frostblade close-in weapon systems
• 4× 28 mm Type 38 remote-controlled automatic guns
• 1×3 M100B 8-cell missile launchers, compatible with:
· Pattern 8C medium-range surface-to-air missile (1/cell)
· Type 48 Series 3 Terrorblade short-range surface-to-air missile (4/cell)
· Pattern 5D anti-submarine rocket (1/cell)
• 1× M103 missile launcher (20× Type 48 Series 3 Terrorblade missiles)
• 2×3 Type 33 350 mm torpedo tubes


Key sensors

Search
• 1× NRS-24 air-search radar
• 1× Series 184 surface-search radar
• 1× EF-6 4-panel air-search and missile acquisition radar
• 1× EN-4 4-panel surface- and low-level air-search radar

Fire control
• 2× NRA-16 fire control radars

Navigation
• 1× Series 188 navigation radar
• 2× NRK-14 navigation radars

Electronic warfare
• 1× Cenyt 6-panel ECM set
• 1× TH2010-C 6-piece ESM set
• 2× Bloodhound ECM sets
• 4× Moonbow countermeasures launchers

Sonar
• 1× SERA-H A bow-mounted sonar
• 1× SERA-H B bow-mounted sonar
• 1× SERA-H C towed-array sonar


Aircraft (as of 2009)

Anti-submarine (peacetime)
• 2× IAP-19K heavy ASW helicopters
• 4× H.31U medium ASW helicopters
• 2× H.31R medium SAR helicopters

Anti-submarine (full military)
• 4× IAP-19K heavy ASW helicopters
• 8× H.31U medium ASW helicopters
• 2–3× H.31R medium SAR helicopters

Fixed-wing air defence
• 6× F.43C-2 V/STOL fighters
• 2× Mi-8MRO-3 AEW helicopters
• 2× H.31U medium ASW helicopters
• 2× H.31R medium SAR helicopters

Fixed-wing strike
• 6–8× IAP-14A5 V/STOL attack aircraft
• 2× H.31U medium ASW helicopters
• 2× H.31R medium SAR helicopters

Boats
• 1× 12 m captain's boat
• 1× 10 m rigid-hulled inflatable boat
• 3× 6.5 m rigid-hulled inflatable boats

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Kiwi Imperialist
Post subject: Polls Now OpenPosted: November 15th, 2021, 12:08 pm
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Polls Now Open
The deadline for the Anti-Submarine Task Force Challenge has passed. Further entries will not be accepted.
Members of the Shipbucket community can now rate each entry here.

A separate poll with options for the next challenge is also open. The three options are:
1. Modern battleship (completed or refitted after 1950) in SB scale. Two month challenge.
2. Interwar tank in Soldierbucket scale.
3. Early helicopter (first flight before 1955) in FD scale.

Both polls will run until the 18th of November, ending at 23:59 (UTC-12) (Countdown Timer).


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heuhen
Post subject: Re: Anti-Submarine Task Force Flagship ChallengePosted: November 15th, 2021, 12:16 pm
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Kiwi Imperialist wrote: *
Polls Now Open
The deadline for the Anti-Submarine Task Force Challenge has passed. Further entries will not be accepted.
Members of the Shipbucket community can now rate each entry here.

A separate poll with options for the next challenge is also open. The three options are:
1. Modern battleship (completed or refitted after 1950) in SB scale. Two month challenge.
2. Interwar tank in Soldierbucket scale.
3. Early helicopter (first flight before 1955) in FD scale.

Both polls will run until the 18th of October, ending at 23:59 (UTC-12) (Countdown Timer).
So next poll will run for 11 month!


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Kiwi Imperialist
Post subject: Re: Anti-Submarine Task Force Flagship ChallengePosted: November 15th, 2021, 9:27 pm
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heuhen wrote: *
So next poll will run for 11 month!
Thank you for pointing that out. I have corrected the month to November instead of October. Acelanceloet also noted that the links in the post were in the wrong order. That has been corrected too.


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Post subject: Re: Polls Now OpenPosted: November 15th, 2021, 10:10 pm
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Kiwi Imperialist wrote: *
Polls Now Open
The deadline for the Anti-Submarine Task Force Challenge has passed. Further entries will not be accepted.
Members of the Shipbucket community can now rate each entry here.
This new form with embedded images is great--in the past, judging has been a maddening ten-tabbed sort of affair :lol:

Hopefully I can find time after work this weekend to give these drawings the thought and attention that they deserve.


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Kiwi Imperialist
Post subject: Re: Anti-Submarine Task Force Flagship ChallengePosted: November 19th, 2021, 12:04 pm
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Both polls are now closed. In the main poll, members of the community were asked to rate the 22 anti-submarine task force flagships submitted. 28 people responded before the deadline. I wish to thank everyone who completed the poll. The artists who participated also deserve our thanks, regardless of where they ranked in the poll. Without them, Shipbucket would be quieter. Now, onto the results.

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The winner of the Anti-Submarine Task Force Flagship Challenge is Charguizard, who also achieved the highest Drawing Quality score. Congratulations! Other participants submitted aircraft carriers, but the detail and aesthetic quality of their Anchorage class aircraft carrier really pushed the envelope. With that said, I would not like to stand on those sponsons without a railing. Soode achieved second place and the highest design quality score with their Hasŏ class large anti-submarine patrol ship. While not technically part of the challenge, it was amazing to see the cutaway of their entry. It reveals how much thought can go into high-scoring entries. In third place is Rainmaker with HMCS Ontario. I had expected something along the lines of Jeanne d'Arc to show up, so I was pleased to see this interesting Canadian take on the design.

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70 people responded to the next challenge poll. For those interest, entries are now being accepted for the Modern Battleship Challenge.

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heuhen
Post subject: Re: Anti-Submarine Task Force Flagship ChallengePosted: November 19th, 2021, 2:52 pm
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Congratulations to Charguizard, it is an awesome drawing


I didn't expect much with mine. I just took one of my task force frigates from my AU. That I got 4th to last place, is awesome :lol: I could have rushed my heavy cruiser drawing, for a few more points, nah.


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Post subject: Re: Anti-Submarine Task Force Flagship ChallengePosted: November 20th, 2021, 3:24 am
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Congratulations to Charguizard :D


MihoshiK: sorry for a very slow answer

i draw all ships with my old dog, 13 years 10 months dog, he sleep in my bedroom ever night

11 Oct 2021 my flagship=75 percent but she look small i want to modify or replace in weekend, and yes i drawing with my sick dog

12 Oct 2021 before sunrise i lost my bestfriend, after do everything i change ship name to his nickname and post. when i see DDG-25 Joe i remember the last day of me and him.

ps. after see all flagships i want to rematch xxx Aircraft Carrier Challenge :lol:


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