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One hundred years ago the great powers of the world were engaged in an extraordinary arms race. Lexington, Amagi, G3... these imposing battlecruisers were the tip of a dangerous and expensive spear. Some felt preparing for another great war immediately after the tragedy of the first was unthinkable. For others, the cost was simply too great to bear. It was in this context that the Washington Naval Treaty was signed on the 6th of February 1922. Limitations were imposed on naval construction and the great fleets of World War I disappeared. A new breed of naval vessel, the 'treaty ship', emerged from restrictions on displacement and armament. This challenge commemorates the Washington Naval Treaty's centenary and the ships that appeared in its wake. Your objective is to draw a fictional capital ship or cruiser which conforms to the limitations of the Washington Naval Treaty. If your ship comes from an alternate universe where the Washington Naval Treaty does not exist, perhaps there is an analogous treaty or design constraint imposing these limitations. In real life, some nations openly or discretely violated the Washington Naval Treaty's terms. That is not within the spirit of the challenge, nor should it be your goal. Show the naval architects of yesteryear what can be achieved within the stated limitations! Please read the design requirements and challenge rules before posting a submission. Do remember that data sheets including text blocks and specifications are no longer permitted under Challenge Rule 2.

Design Requirements

1. Your submission must depict a fictional capital ship or cruiser conforming to the limitations of the Washington Naval Treaty.
2. Capital ships are limited to 35,000 long tons (35,560 tonnes) standard displacement and guns less than or equal to 16 inches (406 millimetres) in calibre.
3. Cruisers are limited to 10,000 long tons (10,160 tonnes) standard displacement and guns less than or equal to 8 inches (203 millimetres) in calibre.
4. Your ship should be laid down between 1922 and 1938, though it can be depicted in service after this period.

Challenge Rules

1. Each participant may submit a single image.
2. The image should be a Shipbucket template modified to include the participant’s art and, optionally, one of the following: ship badge, unit insignia, manufacturer logo, national flag, or naval ensign. Other elements, including data sheets and scenic elements, are no longer permitted. If you have specifications and blocks of text, please include them in your post and not the image itself.
3. One side-view of the participant's ship must be included. One top-view is also permitted, but not required. All other views are prohibited.
4. If two views are included in a single image, they must depict the same ship, in the same configuration, at the same point in time.
5. All art must be in Shipbucket scale and conform to the Shipbucket style guidelines.
6. A textual description accompanying each submission is permitted, but not necessary.
7. Non-serious entries, or entries substantially deviate from the challenge requirements, are not allowed.
8. Off-topic posts will be reported to the relevant authorities.

This challenge will run until Sunday 27 November 2022, ending at 23:59 UTC-12 (International Date Line West).
A countdown timer can be found at this link.


A poll will be held after this date to select a winner! When it opens, please provide honest and meaningful scores for each entry. Responses which grant maximum scores to a select group of entries, and minimum scores to all other entries, will be deleted. Members of the community who manipulate the results in such a fashion may also be subject to a permanent ban. Scores will be allocated in two categories, each with a scale of 1 to 10:

• Drawing Quality - The overall quality of the drawing. One might consider detailing, shading, and accuracy.
• Design Quality -The quality of the design presented, irrespective of drawing quality. One could consider feasibility, practicality, and realism.

Changes to the Washington Naval Treaty Centennial Challenge
In response to questions raised in the past eleven hours, I have made a change to Shipbucket's latest challenge:
A) The term 'battleship' has been replaced with 'capital ship'. If you wish to draw a battlecruiser instead of a battleship, you can.

Also, I wish to confirm that aircraft carriers are not part of the challenge. Apologies to anyone who was hoping to draw one instead of a capital ship or cruiser.

Edited by Gollevainen

Wir Hand en Daunar Cohanden
His Hand in Thunder Cloaked

Builders - Corae Pesdfahrain
Operator - United Kingdom of the Merands, Curgovs, and Besrans
Laid Down - March 20th, 1934
Launched - August 19th, 1937
Commissioned- Merand New Years' Day, September 1st, 1938
Decommissioned - September 9th, 1959
Fate - Broken Up, 1960s
Displacement - 30,800 tons (27500 long tons) standard load
Length - 215m
Beam - 32m
Propulsion - Geared Steam Turbine, 4 Shafts
Speed - 29 knots
Range - 7830nmi (14,500 km) at cruising speed of 15kn
2450nmi (4550 km) at full speed of 29kn

Armament -

8 x 350mm Stroscirc naval guns in two quad mounts
20 x 120mm Piler naval guns in three quad mounts and two twin mounts
16 x 35mm Piler autocannons in eight quad mounts
24 x 14.5mm RGFa machine guns in twelve double mounts

After the 1924 Beer Hall Putsch overthrew the Casir and his parliament in favourite of the nopeling ultranationalists, many officers of the Reca Marina chose to remain loyal to the deposed monarch. These rebel captains fled to the sanctuary of the new republican faction in the Isanz Republic in Merandy's long time colonial state of Ramay. Mero-Curgovina was left with half a navy. Though deprived of the resources lost in the war with what was then Ovancia and lacking the wealth of Ramay, the new Merand government committed itself to the rebuilding of a competitive navy to hold their place in the Eurybian. Their efforts would culminate in the fast battleship projects of the 1930s.

The first of the great battleships of the ultranationalists was Wir Hand in Daunar Cohanden, named for a line in the poetic Saga of Syrwin whose likeness was the ship's badge. In casual speech, her nickname was Daunarhanda, as the literary names of Mero-Curgovina's ships were too mouthy for regular use- even by Merands. She was built at the Corae concern's yards in their namesake city, and was finished and commissioned in Besra only hours away from where she would see her only combat action against another ship.

Though intended to challenge Goetia or Agrana y Griegro at sea, her only peer-on-peer action was in the Battle of the Besry Cop in 1943, where she sunk her countrymen on the aging republican cruiser Iwagt inte Rynbu and exchanged fire with legendary battlecruiser An Armad Gilde, which would go on to sink Daunarhanda's sister ship Ricsnahtse Stormaz at Second Besry Cop two weeks later. She would go on to survive the war, seeing her last combat action in 1959 bombarding targets on shore during the first Ramay War. Already aging and not fit to be refit for modern service, Wir Hand in Daunar Cohanden would be decommissioned later that year, and scrapped in a yard at home in Corae in the early 1960s.

In the picture provided, she flies a Merand tricolour, Merand naval jack, and the ultranationalist war flag which depicts three clutched halberds. A Hessar Hs. 117 Cormorant sits on her seaplane catapult in baby blue sea camouflage. The ship was never painted in a war time camouflage. The early model boat handling crane would go on to be replaced with a more modern example in 1942. Her complement of heavy machine guns would change throughout the war as anti-aircraft needs dictated.

The acronym on the ship's badge are the Merand characters D S U R M, which stand for dias / diast sparan uir ringe metrinaz, meaning either God save our poor sailors or the gods save our poor sailors depending on whether the individual is Messian or Panecorist. Due to the Merand belief in runes and names manifesting power, DSURM was commonly written on ship's badges and worked into sailor's tattoos. Syrwin is depicted on this badge in the costume of a landscnect of the Ermangairnic period, and wields an uncharacteristic halberd. This is explained by trends in art at the time; the halberd was an ultranationalist symbol and a renaissance revival in the arts saw the Panecorist gods depicted in inaccurate but romantic fashion, styled after the fighting men of the 15th and 16th centuries.

This is my first ship contest entry.

Since I don't have any meaningful changes/additions to my entry I might as well post it.
By downgrading the firepower from 9x15" to 9x14" I could add a bit more armor to the belt, conning tower, torpedo defense and deck armor. I could also add more fuel and increase the cruising speed, which interestingly gave me more strength, which went back into more fuel and armor. Considering the relatively thin-ish armor she had, I choose uparmoring rather than push top speed to 30kts.
And before someone comments on some of the wackyness of the fore tower, it's partially based on a Littorio prelim.



Cristoforo Colombo, Italy Battleship laid down 1932

Displacement:
33 437 t light; 35 000 t standard; 36 841 t normal; 38 314 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
794,95 ft / 772,00 ft x 100,07 ft x 31,50 ft (normal load)
242,30 m / 235,31 m x 30,50 m x 9,60 m

Armament:
9 - 15,00" / 381 mm guns (3x3 guns), 1 687,50lbs / 765,44kg shells, 1932 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline, all forward, 1 raised mount - superfiring
12 - 5,31" / 135 mm guns (4x3 guns), 75,07lbs / 34,05kg shells, 1932 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts with hoists
on side ends, evenly spread
8 - 3,54" / 90,0 mm guns in single mounts, 22,24lbs / 10,09kg shells, 1932 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts with hoists
on side, evenly spread
16 - 1,46" / 37,0 mm guns (4x4 guns), 1,55lbs / 0,70kg shells, 1932 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
18 - 0,52" / 13,2 mm guns (9x2 guns), 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 1932 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
Weight of broadside 16 292 lbs / 7 390 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 90

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 12,0" / 305 mm 403,00 ft / 122,83 m 15,00 ft / 4,57 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Main Belt covers 80 % of normal length
Main belt does not fully cover magazines and engineering spaces

- Torpedo Bulkhead:
3,00" / 76 mm 403,00 ft / 122,83 m 25,00 ft / 7,62 m

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 12,0" / 305 mm 6,00" / 152 mm 12,0" / 305 mm
2nd: 4,70" / 119 mm 3,00" / 76 mm -
3rd: 3,00" / 76 mm 2,00" / 51 mm -

- Armour deck: 5,00" / 127 mm, Conning tower: 10,00" / 254 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 105 428 shp / 78 650 Kw = 28,00 kts
Range 5 500nm at 16,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 3 314 tons

Complement:
1 329 - 1 728

Cost:
£15,076 million / $60,302 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 2 037 tons, 5,5 %
Armour: 12 498 tons, 33,9 %
- Belts: 3 240 tons, 8,8 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 1 118 tons, 3,0 %
- Armament: 3 007 tons, 8,2 %
- Armour Deck: 4 894 tons, 13,3 %
- Conning Tower: 239 tons, 0,6 %
Machinery: 3 112 tons, 8,4 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 15 790 tons, 42,9 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 3 404 tons, 9,2 %
Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0,0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
56 213 lbs / 25 498 Kg = 33,3 x 15,0 " / 381 mm shells or 8,6 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,06
Metacentric height 5,6 ft / 1,7 m
Roll period: 17,7 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 75 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,98
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,49

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has raised forecastle, low quarterdeck
Block coefficient: 0,530
Length to Beam Ratio: 7,71 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 27,78 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 47 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 30,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 6,50 ft / 1,98 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 28,50 ft / 8,69 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 27,00 ft / 8,23 m (26,50 ft / 8,08 m aft of break)
- Mid (50 %): 25,50 ft / 7,77 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 17,00 ft / 5,18 m (25,50 ft / 7,77 m before break)
- Stern: 17,00 ft / 5,18 m
- Average freeboard: 24,80 ft / 7,56 m
Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 86,4 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 195,1 %
Waterplane Area: 52 909 Square feet or 4 915 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 105 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 204 lbs/sq ft or 996 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,94
- Longitudinal: 1,61
- Overall: 1,00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

...actuall lore will be included in the part iii of Evoan AU in the Aravala Universum

Judging should be based off the non camouflaged version, the camouflaged version is just there for looks.



OMK Józef Widel
Namesake: Admiral Józef Widel
Builders: Stocznia Huty Brygida
Operator: Savkowani Royal Navy
Motto: Zawsze odważny, zawsze loyalny (Forever Bold, Forever Loyal)
Laid Down: March 11th, 1934
Launched: November 24th, 1938
Commissioned: June 5th, 1939
Decommissioned: August 15th, 1963
Recommissioned: February 3rd, 1982
Decommissioned: June 3rd, 2001
Fate: Museum Ship in Dobbín, Savkowan

Class: Admirał Class
Class Type: Fast Battleship
Displacement: 30,200 t (Standard Pre Refit) 34,500 t (Standard 1943 Refit)
Length: 233.1m (765 ft)
Beam: 39m (128 ft)
Draught: 9.4m (31 ft)
Propulsion: Basinek Geared Steam Turbine, 3 x Shafts
Speed: 30 kn (55.6 km/h)
Range: 7,850 nmi (14,538 km/h) at 15 kn
Complement: 1,598 (68 Officers, 1,530 Enlisted)

Sensors and processing systems (Refit):
RWPM 42 Surface Search Radar
RWLM 40 Air Search Radar
MSKO 10 Radar Fire Control System

Armament (Refit):
8 x 38 cm (15 in) AM M/31 guns in two quad mounts
8 x 15.7 cm (6.1 in) AM M/30 guns in two quad mounts
12 x 12.7 cm (5 in) AMW M/36 dual purpose guns in six dual mounts
56 x 3.7 cm Zojłola ASP M/37 anti aircraft guns in twenty-eight dual mounts
36 x 2 cm Zojłola ASW M/35 anti aircraft guns in eighteen dual mounts

Aviation Facilities (Refit):
2 x Catapults for 2 x MP.M/40K navy hydroplanes

Design
The OMK Józef Widel is one of four Admirał Class Fast Battleships, the second in her class to be laid down; and built to confine to the terms of post First World War restrictions on capital ships. In 1931, outlines for a new ship class would be drawn up, it needed to be below 30,000 t in order to allow for room for upgrades while still confining to interwar restrictions, however, still mount brand new capable 15 inch guns. Confining to this regulation was a challenge for designers in the beginning, however by early 1933 a design had been settled on that would reduce weight, sacrificing armor for firepower. This meant the new class would be one of the most lightly armored ships to mount 15 inch guns. Other weight shedding methods such as two quad mount primary turrets, and a much less powerful secondary armament on the original draft of the ship design.

Service History
OMK Józef Widel was commissioned on the 5th of June, 1939 amid national crisis. Two years prior, out of national interest, the Greater Jasinovalkian Republic, alongside its allies Laaneset, Salzroe and Tagrainy, declared war on the Duchy of Savkowan and several others. As a result, the Józef Widel would be the last major Savkowani warship to be commissioned until 1944, when her third sister ship was commissioned after delay. The Józef Widel was rushed into service due to bombardment of her drydock during construction, which became more prevalent as the rapid invasion ramping up from the east began. The OMK Józef Widel was forced to evacuate to the overseas colony of Peravliza along with her sister ship the OMK Jan Klicki and several other prized naval assets after the fall of their homeport, Dobbín. While in Peravliza, OMK Józef Widel would see little to no action during the periods of 1939 to 1941, until on the 17th of October, 1941 she would take part in tracking down and destroying two Tagrainy heavy cruisers responsible for commerce raids. It would take the Józef Widel, along with her sister ship and escorts till the 24th of October to find the two Tagrainy cruisers. The engagement that would follow, known as the Battle of Samien Straight, the Józef Widel and her strike group managed to sink the Tagrainy cruisers TNS Filgio Sargione and TNS Coraggio, while losing 2 destroyers, and receiving heavy damage to the OMK Jan Klicki, and light damage to herself. Following her first combat engagement, the liberation of Savkowan was underway, and by late 1942, she was able to return to her home port once more. In January of 1943, she was dry docked for a major refit to her armament. This included the installation of radar systems, dual purpose 5 inch guns, and 37mm and 20mm autocannons. OMK Józef Widel would partake in Operation Saints during the late winter of 1944, receiving her distinct late war camo just before embarking on the operation. And along with several other capital ships from different nations, and her newly commissioned sister ship the OMK Michał Neimowski, which replaced the OMK Jan Klick, which had sunk during the Battle Of Dzerniv Sound while Józef Widel was in drydock.

During Operation Saints, OMK Józef Widel would fire nearly her entire magazine in support of ground forces taking the Jasinovalkian capital. The Józef Widel would participate in several more minor engagements until the wars end in 1946, she was the most decorated Savkowani ship of the war and in 1947, was re-drydocked for a post war refit, adding more radar systems onboard, but not majorly changing her armament aside from the modernization of her antiquated seaplanes. The OMK Józef Widel would continue to serve into the early 1950s undergoing refit a second time to remove her catapults for a helipad and add even more advanced radar systems. In 1956, she was brought back to Peravliza to provide heavy coastal support with her 15 inch guns during the Peravlizan Revolution. She would serve two years in Peravliza before she was brought back to Savkowan for a new purpose. In mid 1958, she was drydocked and refitted to remove her rear quad 15 inch turret with a new MOSRAP M/58 surface to air missile system. Her final five years in service, she would serve as a missile and fire control radar test ship for the Savkowani Royal Navy, until she was inevitably mothballed for the next two decades due to operating costs of such a large test ship, and the full entry into service of many of the systems she was given to test.

In 1980, the Marnin navy commissioned the first of many Takanov Class nuclear guided missile cruisers, these formidable ships were unlike anything the west had in their current fleets. However, Savkowan, along with several other western nations still held on to their mothballed Second World War era battleships. As a result, in early 1981, the OMK Józef Widel along with the OMK Wiktor Tarło and OMK Michał Neimowski were dragged back to drydock for an extensive refit. The Józef Widel, having already been modernized with surface to air missiles, would become the most up to date one of the three. Removing the old MOSRAP M/58 missiles for more modern Oftavian/Daimeran produced systems, adding anti ship missiles, close in weapons systems, better air/surface search radars, and updating her former helipad area to accommodate spotter drones for the one remaining 15 inch gun turret. Two of the three newly modernized Admirał Class ships would be recommissioned formally around the same time in 1983, by the same, now older duchess who saw their commissioning back in the days of the second world. However, the OMK Michał Neimowski’s modernization would be canceled and Michał Neimowski later scrapped in favor of sinking costs into bringing the other sister ship, Wiktor Tarło up to a somewhat similar standard of modernization as the Józef Widel. The OMK Józef Widel and OMK Wiktor Tarło would only see one major engagement during their reinstatement into service. This would be in 1996 when the Global Cooperation Council would find the Despotate of Halsahk guilty of funding international terrorism on major western nations, leading to Savkowan taking part in the naval invasion of the country in order to bring down the ruling regime. The Józef Widel and Wiktor Tarło would be relegated to fire support for the multinational amphibious invasion of the country, operating alongside Oftavian battleships reinstated into service for the same purpose. In combat, the Savkowani ships would be known as "Enermso Mau Lobo'' or "The Big Bad Wolf" due to her distinct wolf coat of arms and the abbreviated fire support callsign of "Lobo" for the ship.

In 2001, both the Józef Widel and Wiktor Tarło were decommissioned for the final time. The OMK Wiktor Tarło would unfortunately meet the scrapyard after being stricken in 2002, however for the Józef Widel, the son of Duchess Anna Jasińska I who commissioned the ships both times, called for the preservation of the ship, as the most decorated ship in the Savkowani navy. The ship would be handed over to private investors for its conversion into a museum ship in 2006, where she sits today as the only remaining of her four sisters, and a national heritage preservation site.

(Side Note: This is my first submission to one of these drawing challenges, but I do expect to submit more in the future. Also if you speak Polish I deeply apologize for likely butchering your language)

Lol, yes, You did butchered Polish language...
"Brygida Huty Stocznie"? You mean "Shipyard of the Brygida Steel Mill"? Then it would be "Stocznia Huty Brygida" (right now it's "Brygida, steel mills, shipyards").
In motto You can skip both "Na" particles, leaving just "Zawsze odważny, zawsze loyalny" - "na zawsze" means rather something like, for example, "I'm giving it for you to keep for ever".
What does "KMN" stands for? And combination of first three letters in "Zjłola" is highly improbable, while use of letter "v" in Polish language in general is confined to loanwords.
"Duchess Ania Jasinski" - Ania is diminution of Anna and isn't appearing together with formal titles, and names ending on -ski, -cki and -dzki have female forms, so it would be "Duchess Anna Jasińska".

And as for the drawing itself - of the more obvious things, the shading at the stern is odd - very wide ship on the bottom of the hull abruptly changes into very thin vertical stripe.

eswube wrote: ↑November 8th, 2022, 9:30 pm Lol, yes, You did butchered Polish language...
"Brygida Huty Stocznie"? You mean "Shipyard of the Brygida Steel Mill"? Then it would be "Stocznia Huty Brygida" (right now it's "Brygida, steel mills, shipyards").
In motto You can skip both "Na" particles, leaving just "Zawsze odważny, zawsze loyalny" - "na zawsze" means rather something like, for example, "I'm giving it for you to keep for ever".
What does "KMN" stands for? And combination of first three letters in "Zjłola" is highly improbable, while use of letter "v" in Polish language in general is confined to loanwords.
"Duchess Ania Jasinski" - Ania is diminution of Anna and isn't appearing together with formal titles, and names ending on -ski, -cki and -dzki have female forms, so it would be "Duchess Anna Jasińska".

And as for the drawing itself - of the more obvious things, the shading at the stern is odd - very wide ship on the bottom of the hull abruptly changes into very thin vertical stripe.

Hey thank you for helping me out, you're gonna see a lot more errors in the future since I don't know anyone anymore that speaks polish and this nation is supposed to speak Polish, right now I just pass it off as "broken Polish" but I'd definitely like to fix it. I'll fix the names and the Motto and Name of manufacturer as for the company name Zjłola I'd need to know if that can be qualified as highly improbable if it's a name of a company, if it's I'll change it, and also how exactly to change it. The motto and other names should be fixed quickly after posting this.

As for KMN, I'll be 100% honest, I made that naval prefix like 2 years ago, it's something along the line of "Royal Navy Ship" "Duke's Navy Ship" or "Duke's Combat Vessel", honestly can't remember lmao and that's a problem, I think most likely it's the second.

Regarding the company name, combination of letters "zjł..." could, perhaps, work in Serbo-Croat, but definitely not in Polish. If You'd replace "j" with some vowel (preferably "a", "e" or "o"), or at least add one of these three vowels before "j", it would sound somewhat better.
As for the KMN - "Royal Navy Warship" or "Ducal Navy Warship" would be "Okręt Marynarki Królewskiej" or "Okręt Marynarki Książęcej" respectively (okręt = warship, marynarka = marine/navy - marynarka wojenna = navy (war marine), marynarka handlowa = merchant marine).
And last but not least - in Polish language "v" and "w" sound exactly the same (approximately like "v" in English language) and "v" wouldn't be really present.

eswube wrote: ↑November 9th, 2022, 9:36 pm Regarding the company name, combination of letters "zjł..." could, perhaps, work in Serbo-Croat, but definitely not in Polish. If You'd replace "j" with some vowel (preferably "a", "e" or "o"), or at least add one of these three vowels before "j", it would sound somewhat better.
As for the KMN - "Royal Navy Warship" or "Ducal Navy Warship" would be "Okręt Marynarki Królewskiej" or "Okręt Marynarki Książęcej" respectively (okręt = warship, marynarka = marine/navy - marynarka wojenna = navy (war marine), marynarka handlowa = merchant marine).
And last but not least - in Polish language "v" and "w" sound exactly the same (approximately like "v" in English language) and "v" wouldn't be really present.

Changes should be all made shortly after this post is made, thanks for helping me out, and I always kind of suspected that latter part there, I know a bit of German, and I knew pronouncing "Widel" as Wee-dell, was not the right way and that it was probably Vee-Dell. This probably won't be the only time you're gonna seeing my horrid broken Polish a lot more lmao.