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Post subject: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: Site archive wipedPosted: November 16th, 2018, 10:08 pm
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Well, current Coastal Warfare TYPE is extremely over-diverse group, but it's carried over from the previous upload, when it wasn't me who started adding the Coastal Defence Ships, Monitors and the like there. I just got over that. ;)

Idea to create separate Ironclad TYPE, with both full-sized ships like Warrior as well as smaller ones like Monitor and Huascar. (basically anything earlier than "proper" Pre-Dreadnought) sounds good to me.
In such case most of 19th/early 20th century gunboats (non-MGB's, that is) could perhaps go to Patrol TYPE.
But there still would be late 19th/20th century Coastal Defence Ships, WW1/WW2 era monitors, the Niels Juel and the like...

On a different note: Japan is uploaded (more-or-less).
It would be great if someone knowledgeable looked into CLASS names for Submarines and Coastal Warfare, as I had to use some complicated naming there, which, btw. sometimes differs wildly from the captions on the drawings.

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Post subject: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: Site archive wipedPosted: November 19th, 2018, 11:50 pm
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Sorry that I'm a little late to the party, but I backed up the database to my computer about a year ago, and just copied it all to my dropbox, if you guys want to grab some of the images that are missing from there, go for it. I have it organized by country. There some non SB drawings in there too, and blank text files, which can be ignored.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ly4t3k023amo ... jgcga?dl=0


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Post subject: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: Site archive wipedPosted: December 1st, 2018, 12:26 pm
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Upload of Russia is complete, leaving only Great Britain (taken care by Hood), Germany and the USA (so the three largest folders of all :lol: )

With Russian warships, I was adding the "local" classification for them (all these TARKR, BPK, SKR, PLARB etc. etc. - of course in full form, acronym and translation) in the Sub-Type, but located them in various Types more-or-less according to generally accepted "western" classification (so, for example Pr.1134's were officialy RKR's and BPK's, but are all under Cruisers, while some other BPK's - like Pr.61 and Pr.1155 - are under destroyers).
The pennant numbers were generally disregarded, as they were frequently changed for disinformation purposes.
Also, Soviet Navy used the letter/number codes as names (K-219, D-3 etc.) for certain classes of their ships, and here it's followed (even though it make an impression of being hull codes - but they are not). Hovewer, some of these ships had both the number and "normal" name (D-1 Dekabrist submarine, for example) - in such cases the name of the ship is given as such and that "D-1" is not moved to Code bracket.

The Pr.1123 Moskva and Pr.10200 Khalzan Anti-Submarine Cruisers (Helicopter Carriers) are under Aviation Ships, but Gibbs & Cox hybrid battleship/aircraft carriers are under Battleships. So far, as a rule of thumb (not only for Russia but all countries) I assumed that dividing line between a warship being (for our Archive's purposes) an "Aviation Ship" or a "Cruiser" (CGH), "Destroyer" (DDH) or whatever else is roughly-defined ratio of flight deck to superstructure ("if it has more superstructure than flight deck, then it's not an Aviation Ship") with presence (or lack) of armament not-for-self-defence being additional factor. I know it's not very "scientific", but for a while I don't really see a better option.

Also, recently we had this discussion above about possible changes to TYPES, but since it was limited to Hood, Colosseum and me, and we haven't reached too many solid conclusions, I haven't made any "real" changes in the archive so far.

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Post subject: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: Site archive wipedPosted: December 4th, 2018, 2:21 pm
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A note to everyone who had old drawings linked to the archive.

Please check all your links!!! As we are uploading the images the old links are being reassigned to new drawings.

For example my interwar battleships thread is showing a rather more eclectic mix. ;)

http://www.shipbucket.com/forums/viewto ... =13&t=5705

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Post subject: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: Site archive wipedPosted: December 4th, 2018, 2:57 pm
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Same for me. ;) Need to go back and update all my threads... what a nightmare!

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