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HMS Sophia
Post subject: The hawk as a naval fighterPosted: May 29th, 2011, 6:58 am
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Hi
Some questions, because I am considering doing a navalized version of the BAe hawk, and a mini carrier for it to sit on.
Now, I'm assuming it would have to be catapult assisted (CATOBAR?), so i'll be looking at F-18's and such for the attachments. However, my big question is does anyone know the take off speed of the thing (unloaded)? The acceleration? Anything I could use to work out how long a carrier I would need to launch them.

And yes, there are probably better choices for naval aircraft, but it's a personal design rather than a realistic idea, mainly because of a bit of fanboyishness for the Hawk :P

Any help would be much appreciated :D


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Post subject: Re: The hawk as a naval fighterPosted: May 29th, 2011, 7:57 am
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It's been done irl as a trainer, but idk the answers to your questions.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-45_Goshawk

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Post subject: Re: The hawk as a naval fighterPosted: May 29th, 2011, 9:14 am
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Maybe a navalised Hawk 200?
That would look cool and be fairly competitive with most modern fighters equipment wise. Actually it might be argued to be better than the Sea Harrier FRS.2. Doubtless it could have the same radar etc and AMRAAM too.

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HMS Sophia
Post subject: Re: The hawk as a naval fighterPosted: May 29th, 2011, 9:32 am
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Sounds like a plan.
Do you know how much deck I would need for take-off?


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Post subject: Re: The hawk as a naval fighterPosted: May 29th, 2011, 12:49 pm
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A version was developed as a cheep rapidly developed and deployed fighter in Stuart Slade's Armageddon novels. From that I'm going to say, yes it's possible, and while it wouldn't be the best fighter in the world, I'd see it more as an attack aircraft first and a fighter second. I think he gives the designation of AT-45 in US service and Hawk A.1 in UK service.

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Post subject: Re: The hawk as a naval fighterPosted: May 29th, 2011, 2:12 pm
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The basic Hawk had a take-off run of 550m with a landing run of 518-524m. Not that it matters much to a carrier becuase you'll have catapults and arrestor gear anyway.

The single-seat Hawk 200 could be armed on five hardpoints (though the ventral point is normally used by a single or twin 25mm ADEN pod) up to 7,700lbs total weight, Sea Eagle and Sky Flash or AMRAAM can be carried, radar could either be Blue Fox or APG-66(H). I reckon Blue Vixen could be fitted without much hassle too. Fuel is increased for a 666 mile radious of action lugging a weapon load of 3,000lbs. All this is real-world info so I reckon with the mods from the T-45 it could be done.

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Post subject: Re: The hawk as a naval fighterPosted: May 29th, 2011, 6:22 pm
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I thought that a modified F-16 set was on offer at one time.


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Post subject: Re: The hawk as a naval fighterPosted: May 29th, 2011, 9:58 pm
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I wonder, could it take off from an Invincible size and style carrier?

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Post subject: Re: The hawk as a naval fighterPosted: May 29th, 2011, 10:03 pm
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I don't think so. I don't think Invincible has a catapult set-up. I may be wrong though.


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Post subject: Re: The hawk as a naval fighterPosted: May 29th, 2011, 10:08 pm
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That's true.

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