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Post subject: Re: FD scale - World war II German organisationsPosted: December 31st, 2017, 12:44 am
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Post subject: Re: FD scale - World war II German organisationsPosted: December 31st, 2017, 9:27 am
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An infantry company in 1944 transported by horse drawn carts? I understand that Germany suffered extensive fuel shortages but not at the point of using horse drawn carts, but it appears im wrong

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Post subject: Re: FD scale - World war II German organisationsPosted: December 31st, 2017, 10:58 am
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Germany's fuel (and vehicle) shortages by the late war reached the point when even Panzer Divisions used horses.

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Post subject: Re: FD scale - World war II German organisationsPosted: January 1st, 2018, 10:17 am
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An infantry company in 1944 transported by horse drawn carts? I understand that Germany suffered extensive fuel shortages but not at the point of using horse drawn carts, but it appears im wrong
Horse was important part of German logistic from start to the end. Full mechanization was only a myth and theoretical unit composition was mostly only on paper. With enormous number of different vehicles types (absolutely logistical nightmare) and harsh theaters Germans operate through war, horse was everywhere.

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Post subject: Re: FD scale - World war II German organisationsPosted: January 2nd, 2018, 12:55 am
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Motorised Heavy anti-tank Battalion, the Panzerwaffe variant, with 8,8cm Pak 43:

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Headquarter and Headquarter Company:
Stab und Stabskompanie einer Panzerjägerabteilung (gem.) (mit 8,8cm Pak 43)
K.St.N.1106 1.2.1944
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Heavy AT-gun Company: x3
schwere Panzerjägerkompanie (12 Geschütze 8,8cm Pak 43 mot Z)
K.St.N.1148 1.6.1944
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Post subject: Re: FD scale - World war II German organisationsPosted: January 3rd, 2018, 9:47 pm
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Post subject: Re: FD scale - World war II German organisationsPosted: January 5th, 2018, 3:59 am
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Post subject: Re: FD scale - World war II German organisationsPosted: January 5th, 2018, 10:00 am
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Great work, sir!!! :D
Are you know, mixed anti-armour abteilungs have another variant?
Have:
- stab mint vers.zug. Similar than 1106(FG), but added two reapair group-one for heavy AT guns and one for Stugs, plus le.Kfz. inst zug, field feeding units, fuel, ammo and medical section.(Kst.n number 1106a or 1106b, i am not sure...)
- heavy AT-gun company, FG
- Jagdpanzer/Stug company, FG
- Flak company, K.St.N 192, or similar.
Also have variant without Jagdpanzer company.(Stab loses one reapir group, some fuel and ammo trucks, and a field kitchen.)
Maybe a variant of the mixed anti-tank battalion used by infantry and volksgrenadier divisions.
Found it the sturmpanzer.com webpage. Very sad, sturmpanzer.com lost most of its download sections, so i dont find the original sources now...


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Post subject: Re: FD scale - World war II German organisationsPosted: January 5th, 2018, 10:20 am
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Plus, another minor issue.
Infantry division 44, fusilier battalion:
Have units K.st.N 111cn, 131cn, 149cn, 151cn.
So, have stabs and stabskompanie for fusilier battalion, bicycle.
Bicyle rifle company(2X), fusilier cycle company, heavy fusilier cycle company.
149cn are different than 149v. These germans, make everything difficult :lol:
But, not only the fusilier bike company are the only cycling unit on the volksgrenadier division.
One of the grenadier regiments have an "abteliung", grenadiers with bicycles. So, Kst.N. numbers are 131cv, 151cv...
If you are a lucky person, and downloaded the KSt.N-NARA sections from the sturmpanzer.com, you found this charts.
I forgot to download them in time :( :( :(
Good luck! Your charts are very visualizing, highly recommended any amateur historicans see this page...
Have a good day!


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Mopat
Post subject: Re: FD scale - World war II German organisationsPosted: January 5th, 2018, 10:36 am
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Oh, pardon me, please!
Forget one-jaeger regiments!
Originally jaeger battalions have HQ company, 3 rifle company, one HMG company and one heavy company. But later have only 3 light jaeger company, and one heavy jaeger company only. Light companies have got two 81mm mortars per company, also "zugs" are bigger. Heavy company now have 2 platoon(zug) of heavy machine gun, one platoon of leIG 18, 75mm guns, and one platoon of sd kfz 10, 20mm FLAK38 armed! So 8xMG34/42, 4x75mm IG, and 4x20mm FLAK, if remembered correctly.
Also, as usual, i am originally found in the sturmpanzer.com...


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