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Hood
Post subject: Re: Project Cancelled: The Alternative What-If British AircrPosted: April 17th, 2013, 8:25 am
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The same (or very similar) turret was meant for the Boulton Paul P.92 turret fighter too. Wind tunnel tests managed to refine the streamlining of the turret but when it was traversed it acted like an airbrake (unstable because the drag was on whichever side the barrels pointed). A scale-prototype P.92/2 was built and flown but only ever fitted with a wooden hump to mimic the turret. The quad 20mm turret never progressed beyond mock-up.

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Post subject: Re: Project Cancelled: The Alternative What-If British AircrPosted: April 19th, 2013, 3:55 pm
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The Handley Page HP.113 research aircraft in the service of the Royal Aircraft Establishment at Farnborough circa 1964.

This odd aircraft designed to be a boundary layer-control research aircraft. Two Bristol Orpheus BOr 12 turbojets in the rear fuselage. The English Electric Canberra's front fuselage and nose undercarriage was used. The cabin be used to seat 12 passengers in a civil version. The civil version could fly London-New York at 528mph with a take-off weight of 36,500lbs. This is a later version with a T-tail. The rear undercarriage is fitted in the rear blisters which probably held the ducts to the wings etc.

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Post subject: Re: Project Cancelled: The Alternative What-If British AircrPosted: April 19th, 2013, 5:51 pm
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Hood, I prostrate myself before your throne :D Just when I thought it coulddn't get better........... :) BTW, has anyone seen the version of the Canberra designed as a business jet?


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Post subject: Re: Project Cancelled: The Alternative What-If British AircrPosted: April 19th, 2013, 5:59 pm
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Amazing work!


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Post subject: Re: Project Cancelled: The Alternative What-If British AircrPosted: April 20th, 2013, 3:31 pm
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Another sci-fi supersonic aircraft from Hawker. The P.1093 supersonic blended delta-wing all-weather fighter powered by a Rolls-Royce RA.14 Avon or a DH Gyron was designed in 1952 and the planned armament was six wing-mounted 30mm ADEN. Span 41 ft, length 49 ft 6ins and wing area 750 ft sq. This was being designed around the time of the supersonic Hunter developments but was a much more radical beast. Here it is shown in the colours of 11 Squadron, Fighter Command circa 1964.

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Post subject: Re: Project Cancelled: The Alternative What-If British AircrPosted: April 20th, 2013, 3:48 pm
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Wow! :o
This thread is simply a Crown Jewel of the FD Section.
(despite my efforts to create meaningful competition ;) :lol: )


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Post subject: Re: Project Cancelled: The Alternative What-If British AircrPosted: April 20th, 2013, 7:23 pm
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Six Aden?!? :shock: Someone should have told Hawker that the Bismarck had already been sunk by then! Beautiful drawings Hood!

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Post subject: Re: Project Cancelled: The Alternative What-If British AircrPosted: April 20th, 2013, 7:59 pm
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That is quite a menacing looking machine. Looks almost as if a MiG-21 and a Javelin had a bastard child over the North Sea. Any idea if anything was on the cards such as rocket packs or AAMs?

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Post subject: Re: Project Cancelled: The Alternative What-If British AircrPosted: April 21st, 2013, 10:37 am
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eswube, many thanks for your kind words but I feel your Polish and East German threads have offered superior awesomeness, especially your airliners and commercial aircraft with their liveries. :ugeek:

Blackbuck, only six Aden are listed but this just after the Aden cannon was finally deemed superior to the competing idea of fitting a recoilless 4.5in gun to all-weather fighters in the 1947-50 timeframe. Heavy firepower was deemed necessary to down the kinds of heavy bombers thought likely to appear. No Tu-4 or hypothetical Soviet attempts to build an equivalent B-50 could have withstood more than a few hits from this broadside. Rockets aren't mentioned but I reckon a couple of 2in Microcell rocket packs could have been fitted. I assume this design was purely a study or a private-venture but had it been built it would probably have been armed like the Lightning with twin Firestreak and perhaps a couple of Aden.

On the pixel-board at the moment is the Handley Page H.P.11C transport based on the Victor.

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Post subject: Re: Project Cancelled: The Alternative What-If British AircrPosted: April 21st, 2013, 12:36 pm
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Hood wrote:
eswube, many thanks for your kind words but I feel your Polish and East German threads have offered superior awesomeness, especially your airliners and commercial aircraft with their liveries. :ugeek:
Cannot be... :oops:
Hood wrote:
On the pixel-board at the moment is the Handley Page H.P.11C transport based on the Victor.
And Victor itself? Or rather Victors - B.1 (in early configuration), B.2 and K.2? ;)


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