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Post subject: Re: Project Cancelled: The Alternative What-If British AircrPosted: April 28th, 2013, 1:34 pm
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Very nice,but could be this used from an British aircraft carrier?It seems too large.


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Post subject: Re: Project Cancelled: The Alternative What-If British AircrPosted: April 28th, 2013, 3:54 pm
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Glad you like the HS.136 BH. Those BEA colours actually look quite good and very 60s-70s style. The old red square and black line BEA livery of the late 1950s and early 1960s is my favourite though. Anyway, I'm on a roll today with a second drawing!

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The BAC P.45 variable-geometry wing supersonic trainer and light fighter. The colour schemes are of No.2 Squadron and No.226 OCU sometime during the late 1970s.
This is the third 1964 project I've drawn this weekend, halcyon days when Britain might have been short of cash but not ideas. The P.1154 was to be an advanced trainer for pilots going onto the TSR.2 and P.1154/ Phantom. It could also serve in single-seat form as a light strike/interceptor aircraft for overseas theatres. AST.362 was raised and P.45 tendered, some designs had one RB.168 Spey and others two RB.172 (like the design above). As a research type for VG-wing experience the P.45 seemed ideal but the Labour government under Healey signed a MoU to jointly produce an aircraft with France, the Jaguar we know today. Probably with VG this design would have been expensive and unknowns with the wing mechanism etc. might have delayed things. Even so this is one nice-looking little aircraft. The fighter above has two 30mm cannon pods and one ventral hardpoint, shown here carrying Martel.

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Post subject: Re: Project Cancelled: The Alternative What-If British AircrPosted: April 28th, 2013, 4:04 pm
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Fantastic additions!


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Post subject: Re: Project Cancelled: The Alternative What-If British AircrPosted: April 28th, 2013, 5:13 pm
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how about the Bristol Type 167 Brabazon?

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Post subject: Re: Project Cancelled: The Alternative What-If British AircrPosted: April 29th, 2013, 10:21 pm
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Post subject: Re: Project Cancelled: The Alternative What-If British AircrPosted: April 30th, 2013, 7:13 am
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Awesomeness of this thread is killing me. ;)

EDIT: That addition below makes me being killed even more. ;)


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Post subject: Re: Project Cancelled: The Alternative What-If British AircrPosted: April 30th, 2013, 1:46 pm
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The Hawker P.1062 of 1947 in RAF use with 43 Squadron circa 1951.

The Hawker P.1062 was a study for a swept-wing P.1040 (Sea Hawk), with a T-tail and a 6,200lb thrust Rolls-Royce Tay (with afterburning later) and armed with four 20mm cannon. Max speed would have been 690mph. It was the beginning of the studies that led to the P.1081 swept-wing prototype flown in 1950 and was arguably the great-granddad of the Hawker Hunter.

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Post subject: Re: Project Cancelled: The Alternative What-If British AircrPosted: May 3rd, 2013, 10:35 am
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In February 1954 Vickers worked on this unnamed design study for a supersonic bomber. It was to be a high-altitude long-range bomber carrying a 5,000lb bomb (nuclear) over a still air range of 4,315nm reaching 70,000ft over the target and cruising at Mach 2.2-2.5 during the flight. The crew consisted of a single pilot, very unusual at this time, and the airframe used Hiduminimum RR.58 which could withstand heat generated up to Mach 2.5. The engines were six unreheated Rolls-Royce engines designed for supersonic cruising (unlike any existing British engines of the time). This seems to be a study and was unrelated, but probably influenced, work on OR.330. At this time Vickers designed a few futuristic aircraft like this. Certainly a stunning concept though.

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Post subject: Re: Project Cancelled: The Alternative What-If British AircrPosted: May 3rd, 2013, 10:42 am
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XB-70 and XB-51 unholy child from trip to Albion. :shock:

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Post subject: Re: Project Cancelled: The Alternative What-If British AircrPosted: May 3rd, 2013, 11:56 am
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Wow...
I wonder how it lands with that huge engine under it..

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